Anti-Trump protests erupt across US from New York City to Seattle
Thousands of people take to streets to protest threats to reproductive rights and pledges of mass deportations
This was one of the main reasons why I was looking forward to Harris winning ... so that everyone in the world could just stop talking about dumb American politics for a while
Now it looks like it's all we'll ever talk about at the expense of talking about every other important thing in the world ... such as our long term survival as a species on this planet.
The unfortunate truth is that a Trump win is relevant to our long term survival as a species. He's likely to push anti-pollution deregulation, prioritize fossil fuels, refuse to uphold international agreements on climate change policy, etc. That's on top of the damage he will do to international trade, charitable efforts, world health, immigration, and war. He is far from the only problem in all of those areas, but unfortunately he's likely to be involved with just about all of it, and improve none of it. As an American, I'm so so sorry.
"Drill baby drill, frack baby frack".
Trumps literal words at a rally leading up to the election. And people cheered.
This should tell you all you need to know. If you recycle, if you carpool, if you use public transportation. If you have a compost pile. If you refuse to buy plastic water bottles, and styrofoam plates. If you do everything you can to reduse, reuse, and recycle, fuck you. Your efforts are in vein. All of it is being undone on a global industrial scale. Purposefully. With tax breaks for the oil tycoons who pollute the most.
This is what we're in for.
The unfortunate truth is that a Trump win is relevant to our long term survival as a species.
You actually missed the biggest thing of all. Trump's new world disorder is going to create an explosion of nuclear proliferation. In the new environment, countries can no longer rely on the US nuclear umbrella as they have for the past 70 years. Every country will rightly want to have their own nuclear weapons now. And the shear amount of new countries that are going to have their own nuclear weapons is going to guarantee a disaster sooner or later.
As the POTUS, Trump gets to set the bar on the world stage for international cooperation in many parts of life.
Other leaders, world-wide, will follow his lead, either because they can finally get away with it, or in reaction to how he treats their nation.
We saw this to a small degree with Trump 1.0 when nobody expected him to win. Now the entire world has had 8 years to figure out what they are going to do.
Don't worry, nothing will be done to stop him (till he's in a bunker if you catch my drift.)
Long-term fate was sealed with this election.
Short-term profit year over year for the shareholders always wins.
Sadly, a few protests now is nothing in comparison if Harris would have won. The Republican party already had preemptive lawsuits to challenge the election results before election day and the results would have been contended for months. There was a high likelihood of a repeat of Jan. 6th 2021 on Jan. 6th 2025 from right wing milita groups.
Americans would rather bully the entire world than participate in it apparently. We're stuck with this now. The Republican party is back from the dead.
Funny that Musk supports "long-termism" and yet helped get Trump into office. A real face-eating leopards moment.
While I fully support these protests, they need to be planning for the responding violence from authorities. It's coming the day Trump takes office.
People protesting in Seattle or NYC are, rest assured, taking state sanctioned violence into account. SPD/NYPD are a great way to train a culture in how to mitigate absolute bastards.
Maybe I should get started on that LRAD deflector...
Probably best to stick to coordinating movements to isolate and neutralize paid provocateurs and provide secure wellness stations, while maintaining a recording of EVERYTHING done by officials. Remember to broadcast everything, not just record. That way recordings can't be seized.
At some point they'll start shutting down internet access to prevent recording of their actions. But that will probably coincide to when protest isn't the most efficient of methods any more.
And searches for "can I change my vote" and "what is a tariff" have spiked
Everyone has been warning against Trump (including his own ex staff and lawyers).
Big thanks to the donkeys though who promoted Trump and tried to pretend Kamala is the same.
I doubt there is a single economist that believes in Trump
Get ready because next year they going make protesting illegal, and Trump already signal his willingness to send troops to said protest. I suspect we will have protest and soldiers shooting said protesters. People under estimate how many mega have joined the army.
If making protesting illegal is enough to get you to stop protesting: You're not really upset enough to have protested in the first place for anything but taking pictures of it for social media points.
And it's not like protesters haven't been getting shot or beaten up by police even while it's legal.
That's why I would advise against directly confrontation means of protest. Instead look at things like malicious compliance, boycotts, 4B / birthstrike, anticonsumption, and other acts of non-participation. Labor strikes will probably be common, but those can be rather risky.
Governments know how to deal in violence. Don't give them a target to aim at.
Yep. They knew what would happen because weāve been telling them for months what would happen. Trump himself has been telling them for months what would happen. But theyāre too smart. They always seem to know more than those they disagree with.
And now, because of a single issue thatās happing in a country where most of them couldnāt have located on a map a year ago- weāre now having to deal with the worst possible outcome.
And hereās the kicker-
Whatās happening at that place that they could locate on a map a year ago that upset them so much will not be happening for too much longerā¦
and it wonāt be ending in a way theyād have hoped it would.
But just waitā¦ itāll be everyone elseās fault.
The new narrative is "I have no culpability whatsoever when it comes to Trump winning just because I kept repeating that no one should vote for Harris. It's entirely her fault for running a bad campaign."
They refuse to share blame. I hope they feel just as self-righteous when they're getting marched into that boxcar.
Please show me a single example of somepne saying that Harris was the same as trump.
Take a stroll through hexbear and .Ml
I see all these comments roasting the protestors, but I'm just glad people are angry. It would have been great if the election went differently, but it didn't, and we are where we are. Support people getting mad with how things turned out. Stop acting like all these people did nothing until now. I voted, and I'm protesting. I'll happily welcome non voters in the protests too. Turn your frustration and anger against the people you oppose instead of willing allies.
Yeah. The best time to do this was a week ago. The next best time is for the next four years
Stop acting like all these people did nothing until now
Well no, they did do something.
They voted for Trump.
Something something chickens something something home to roost and all that.
I understand wanting to protest, but what could it possibly accomplish? If you are protesting the incoming administration, they're certainly not going to care. If you're protesting the current administration, there's nothing they can do. If you're protesting the people who didn't vote, I'm pretty sure they already know we're mad at them. As of yet there's no evidence of outright cheating (if it turns out there is, that would be a better time to protest). But protesting just because you don't like the results of a race is a bit like throwing a tantrum.
I don't know man, I'm still an amateur on this whole scene, admittedly. I do know that when my loved ones are put at risk I'm not just going to shrug and say, "guess this is just how it's gonna be, voters voted for it." It's unsurprisingly feeling just like the last time Trump was in power. I happen to be of a demographic that is at minimal risk personally, but my neighbors are being threatened and their property has been vandalized with hate speech. They're scared to leave the house. I've got family and friends being told they don't deserve to have the same rights as everyone else and targeted by open acts of hatred. A lot of Americans may have voted in support of this kind of thing, but that doesn't mean I'm going to just shut up, roll over, and accept it. If that's considered throwing a tantrum, then okay. I would expect anyone to throw such a tantrum in the same kind of circumstances, including my political opposites.
I mean as an American it's still technology my right.
They get to go to reeducation camp first!
Wonderful timing! Did you ever consider doing this a week or two ago?
If the people had rallied far more before the election, it could have convinced enough ignorant fence sitters. Now we have people reacting to damage already done when the next chance to fix it is two years away.
To be fair, I imagine most of these people voted.
This is a good lesson to those who are shocked by the win but didn't vote.
"Huh. I threw away my vote and now they're talking about implementing Project 2025 during Trump's revenge administration! Weird..."
None of this makes sense anymore. How could people possibly be shocked this time? It happened before under less favorable circumstances.
Wasnāt the time to protest like before the election? Canāt figure the US line of reasoning
I think Trump's strategy was "I'm going to sound so crazy every Democrat will assume I'll lose and don't bother voting".
And it worked.
TWICE
That's how it was for me except I did vote. But I was so confident we had it in the bag.
Well, at a certain point, "just don't be that big a dumbass" has to happen because things really can't stay together otherwise. Assuming he couldn't win is a perfectly sensible assumption. You can lead 73 million horses to water but you can't make them drink.
A mandate of hate.
It worked all right. Now we have to deal with it
They were protesting before the election. You just weren't paying attention
Or voting against a racist and facist for oval office.
Remember if you're going to any protests. Don't bring your phone and wear a mask. Use a map if you're not familiar with the area, write any important numbers you might need to call from a cell on your arm. Let friends know where you're going and don't go alone if you can.
Why no phone? Also is it still that bad with CoVid, that even outside a mask is necessary?
Because they are protesting someone who wants to make protesting illegal. Better to protest now without a phone and a mask, so you don't get shot in the legg when he gets in power in January
I think it's more to avoid facial recognition
monkey paw curls
The two party system is over
couldve been louder a couple months ago
March and rally to protest Trump and the two-party war machine
Mass protests against the two-party system. Perhaps we can get some actual representation next election.
There isnāt going to be another election, not a real one anyway. Itās game over.
For starters, his first speech on 1A basically says heās prosecuting anyone who dares to enforce the Hatch Act.
And he'll probably put into effect the insurrection act.
Funny. Assuming there actually is a next time.
Imagine being stupid enough to protest democracy, assist a wannabe dictator become the next US president, and still bitching about a two party system system. Because of ignorance and stupidity there will only be single party going forward in America.
Fascism like the world has never seen.
This shit is so self-defeating, anti-progressive and only inflicts damage on the truly innocent people
But hey principles ami right?
Hey Bud. You okay?
This reads like you're feeling defeated. It's okay to have hope that the world can get better, even if it feels like the dark days.
You anthropomorphizing complex socio-polotical effects of a rotting economic system. Just thought you ought to know.
"Hate never made America great" ? What the fuck are you even talking about? Your hate of commies launched you to the moon and made you a nuclear superpower. Your hate of the religious freedom in Europe caused you to invade another continent and cause genocide upon its inhabitants. Your hate of black people sparked a civil war that almost destroyed you as a country.
Hate is what defines you. As a reminder of the hate you perpetuate, your majority chose hate of women and minorities instead of throwing a known criminal in jail. Trump is the US. Hate is the US.
Our hate of fascism led us to put Hitler in a corner so dark he took his own life because the commies we hated so much would've done so much worse to him like Mussolini. I think you have misrepresented our hatred of commies, since this is just one part of our history; we work with the commies whenever it's convenient and then when it's peaceful we make a pissing contest for the sake of flexing on one another like petty stepbrothers. Hate is a big part of our history, yes, but it's ignorant to think of this as the whole face of America.
And before anyone says "America joined WWII late," I want to say that's a lie by omission most of the time. It's true that America put troops on the ground only after Pearl Harbor...but the US government was already sending supplies to the allies before that; for the entire duration of the war, the US had an anti-Nazi government. Hypocritically so due to the US policies against black people, but some people phrase it in a way that makes it sound like they want us to believe the US was close to joining the Axis before Pearl Harbor (also bringing up the MSG rally, which...you could find a comparable amount of Nazis in any Western country at the time.) Anti-interventionism was the absolute norm in the US at the time.
Now, it is incorrect that US History class casts Americans as the primary heroes of WWII.
instead of throwing a known criminal in jail.
All they had to do is throw in jail is correct. But no, they kept him around and used him as the "orange boogyman" so they can campaign without campaign promises.
As an Italian who lived through three different Berlusconi's governments... there is no way back. Identity politics is too yummy for lobbies and the other people who fund politicians.
What should someone even do to respond to a viewpoint like this?
I mean, some support of reform in your congress and senate would be a good answer. Allowance from people outside the two anointed parties to come forward and propose good ideas even if they don't affiliate themselves with the oligarchs running things in the republican and democratic parties - fix that First Past The Post bullshit, you all know it's bad for you. Reform of how you count votes, gerrymandering is literally destroying your elections. Reform of how many representatives there are for each state - you're telling me even though California has 17 million more people than Florida, they have the same number of senators? Or maybe it'd be nice if your cops wouldn't be above the law and always getting away with murdering minorities, that would help. Or maybe reform of your education and healthcare systems, which feed all your money in the pockets of the same fucks who then force you into labor for the "luxury" of taking an ambulance to the hospital when you're sick, or earning a higher education. Reform of your for-profit prison system that jails minorities to further increase your class divide. Or reform of your diplomatic relations with countries known for genocide. Reform of so many different things... But I think most of all, it would really have sent a message if instead of making him president, you'd have just jailed the convicted felon that has ties to one of your biggest enemies. Cause otherwise you're just painting the picture that corruption has overtaken you.
And hey, it's not you as a person that is responsible for any of this. But this is how it looks like from the outside. Your majority has decided you're gonna be corrupt fucks for the next few years and that you as a nation are gonna exchange the lives of women for a red hat and a fake tan. If that's what the majority decides, that's the impression your country will leave. I'm truly sorry about it for the many actually reasonable people that are left. Perhaps now is a good time to consider emigration.
yall had your chance. fucked around and found out.
I still support the protests but, jesus christ, this fucking mess is only just beginning.
I get the feeling we need to be doing the work the Democrats refused to do: creating a political mandate. Protesting is part of creating that mandate, but one thing I would like to see is the inverse of the "ground game" l; where instead of going door to door to convince people of a solution, you get them involved in the decision process.
creating a political mandate
My friend, we just created a political mandate. Unfortunately, it was for literal fascists.
Any type of "strategy" as it were is moot now.
americans are awful at protesting. they show up, cant figure out where to park, have no organizations, have lame chants (e.g. hey hey, ho ho, donald trump has go to go), present the same meaningless meme protest posters, leave tons of trash behind, and it last a few hours. Nothing is sustained for multiple days or weeks, and the solidarity is with people who already were with you.
So accurate. Attention span issues.
H A S T O G O
Donald Trump has got to go!
They should ship in French people. They are first class protestors.
I'm shocked at all the election denialism I'm seeing. This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.
Itās a shame people are falling for that trap. Especially after all the shit we all had to hear about it for the past 4 years.
It's the classic, "It's good, when we do it." b.s.
Like in most wars, Americans have come too late again.
This is hardly the first protest against Trump...
Yeah? Are more than 71 million people protesting? If so, where the fuck were you on Tuesday? And if not, well, I understand you don't like the election result but this isn't going to achieve anything.
"No but see I withheld my vote for Kamala because I don't feel she earned it"
No but see I withheld my vote for genocidal candidates.
FTFY. get your facts straight. Kamala's internal polling knew this. she choose this put your ire in the proper location: on harris and the dnc for blowing a fucking election against this twit to shill harder for corporations.
she had two jobs to win: convince people she took the economic hardships of american workers serious (she didn't) and commit to following americas laws (she didn't while simultaneously running as a law and order candidate).
Instead she treated arabs like absolute garbage and had pro business economic policies. oooo 25k for first time home owners. bitch people can't afford food and rent and mortgage rates are at a two decade high. you think 25k is going to do shit?
she was such an arrogant asshole to arabs and the working class we fucking warned everyone for months. but instead of listening idiots spouted 'lesser evil' nonsense. All I know is im grabbing popcorn for the next four years and focusing my efforts entirely locally from now on. fuck the DNC and national democrats.
Being persnickety with people putting their lives out there in protest is such a DNC move. Bet you bitched about the college gaza protests. If your old enough you would of been bitching about civil rights and Vietnam war protests too.
They can come out to protest but not to vote?
There are 161 million people registered to vote. Out of 147 million that did vote, 3 million more voted for Trump. Do not shame the actual voters, we did our part.
Dudes getting rid of the department of education so garbage human beings can isolate their children in homeschooling. More than protests are required. Real tangible steps needed to be taken prior to the election to enshrine basic rights and quality of standard for the US citizens. Democrats refused because everyone knows they have 1 or 2 senators or congressional rep that would make sure their minor majority was canceled out. This was intentional by democrat leadership(pelosi). The US voters refused to remove both democrats and republicans end masse because both of them wanted their party to have the power. Welcome to the Divided States of america. Have you had your joy today?
En masse*
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Minority of americans are against Trump. I've lost all hope for average americans intelligence.
Yes! Finally!
As expected.
He stole the election.
He probably didn't. He was polling very well. Very well. Better than his last two elections for a long time. People pretended he couldn't win and I admittedly didn't think they'd do that since that's exactly what happened in 2016.
Simply assuming the election was stolen will be a mistake because that mindset will help Republicans win their next election. The voters wanted an irreparably changed supreme court and Trump functionally immune from prosecution and that's what the voters got.
Um, or not realizing the danger we are literally in right now will be a mistake.
Think of what Trump has literally said:
There won't be a next election. He is a Russian asset meant to take all of our money and kill us. The voters didn't decide anything, Russia did. To kill us.
I reformatted my post for clarity if that helps. I have been trying to gather reputable sources and more info as story unfolds and I think I let it get too messy.
There are reasons to want Congress to stop him apart from "stealing" the election (which I don't think happened). Particularly the 14th amendment which states insurrectionists cannot hold office.
One piece of this is pretty easily debunked:
"Your votes are rigged. We can win New Mexico."
If that were true, why didn't they? š¤
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election_in_New_Mexico
Not only did Trump lose, he wasn't even close.
Fewer people turned up for Harris, likely due to the lower emphasis on vote by mail this year compared to 2020, but he still lost.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_New_Mexico
As for the whole "Starlink hacked the machines!" that's as crazy a claim as the Hugo Chavez claims from 2020.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/11/11/left-wing-conspiracy-theorists-elon-musk-satellites/
"There is no evidence to support the claims spreading on social media. US voting machines are typically disconnected from the internet in order to prevent interference.
Last week Jen Easterly, director of the US Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, said there was āno evidence of any malicious activity that had a material impact on the security or integrity of our election infrastructureā.
Allegations that there are millions of āmissingā votes have been spread by both Democrats unhappy about Trumpās victory and Republicans who claimed the theories vindicate their concerns about the 2020 result.
The discrepancy in the number of votes cast is mostly down to slow vote counting in California, which as of Monday had only processed around 74pc of ballots despite being called for Kamala Harris days ago."
I'm not going through the rest of the claims as it's obviously just so much tinfoil hattery.
Youtube is not a source, anyone can go on Youtube and say anything.
Ditto Facebook, Twitter, reddit, etc. etc.
Enemies of democracy.
The protesters?
The commenter forgot Republicans were saying they would rather be Russian than Democrats. The commenter also forgot that Russia doesn't run on a democratic system.
Where were all these people when they had the opportunity to vote? You lost a legitimate election. Now you want to protest the results? Please explain the difference when republicans protested and tried to overturn the election.
You know damn well Republicans werenāt protesting, they tried to take the capitol and tried to kill politicians including Pence.
Yeah, I was with you until that last sentence... Fuck outta here with that false equivalence
Then please explain the difference. How is it a false equivalence?
