I will never understand why gamers get mad at other gamers so intensely for not liking the correct game or system
Like bro it's a fucking toy, you would think that it's a religion the way these dingleberries talk.
Every major game company is greedy and terrible, your favorite gamer shit isn't any less mindless consumption-y than the gamer shit that you don't like.
It sucks because the whole industry is shitty and instead of acknowledging that they distract from the real problems facing the industry by squabbling about which souless company is the most souless.
The same kind of people complain when game industry workers try to unionize.
I always assume it's just children on Reddit that act like that... I hope.
Any vegetarian/vegan can tell you about this. Even if you don't say anything, the moment someone notices your plate has no meat on it the rest of the people at the table immediately go into red alert and raise their shields.
Reminder to all that popular gaming/nerd culture youtuber Nick Robinson (also Porter Robinson's brother) got fired from Polygon for being a rapist and sex pest. Imagine being such a creep that even Polygon fires you. What's crazy is I STILL see people post his videos on the bear and will completely ignore any comments calling him out for it. The rest of the thread continues like normal, like it's fine.
It's beyond video games, you see this with music and movies as well. Gamers are just particularly odious. A lot of adult children NEED their choice of treats to be validated by others.
Reminds me of when the last Tool album came out, it topped the charts and kept the Taylor Swift album that came out at the same time off the top spot. The Swifties had a complete meltdown over it, which is silly, but it’s also a fan base of mostly teenagers, not the most emotionally mature group.
However, when it’s a 20 or 30-something screeching that one website gave the new 6th entry in their favorite generic FPS series “only” a 7.5/10, that’s some serious arrested development.
There are people here who start malding if you talk shit about Dark Souls any popular fromsoft game from Dark Souls onwards lmao
Fixed it.
Which that qualification just excludes AC4, ACFA, AC5, and ACVD... problem now is if you try to talk shit about armored core 6 you now have a bunch of souls tourists jumping you like you talked shit about dark souls.
And yes I will die on the hill saying armored core 6 is just not much of an armored core game.
You already mentioned this, but I feel like a big part of this is because a lot of people getting into really heated gaming discussions are kids. It's easy to go crazy about treats when your biggest problem in life is homework.
Most of the adults I know can still be passionate about media, but also don't mind if you say "it's not really my thing." Funkopop adults do exist, but they're over-represented on reddit, you don't run into those people IRL very often.
Because life in the imperial core is so airless and carved from plasticine that there's nothing else to care about or medium in which to experience feelings.
All of the "console wars" were manufactured by their respective companies to drive consumer culture. If you look at gaming advertising from the 90s you can see where all of this comes from.
Game console tribalism made a little bit of sense in the early 90s if -- and only if -- you lived in a small rural town where games were harder to come by. Everyone having the same console (whether SNES or Genesis) meant that you and your friend group could lend games to one another so that everyone didn't have to snag a copy of Chrono Trigger or Star Fox or Turtles in Time or whatever. From each Mountain Dew-chugging, Cheeto-dust encrusted tweenage boy according to his (parents') ability, to each Mountain Dew-chugging, Cheeto-dust encrusted tweenage boy according to his need.
I had the opposite experience. I remember being friends with someone with a SNES. We would play SNES games at his house and Genesis games at my house. Later on, someone would have an N64 while someone else would have a PS1.
Same. I don't remember a single instance of kids discriminating based on console here. It's ruralish so maybe access to gaming magazines and games media encouraged it more?
since i've seen some of the other comments go the way i was gonna, i'm pivoting to try and see/express a different perspective. I've been thinking about the complete dearth of culture in today's world and how people react to living in a world devoid of meaning. the consumer tribalism we see (beyond its overt manufacturing in media) and the strong feelings we humans get about our treats could be a kind of coping device we use to give meaning to a meaningless and joyless existence.
At this point in history capitalism has wrung the value and pleasure out of every corner of our lives. After another day getting absolutely gobsmacked by the machine, if one doesn't give one's treats meaning, comaradarie, and weight, where the hell is one supposed to find it?
It's really weird. Thankfully I just consoom the slop I like and don't consoom the slop I dislike. I stopped giving a shit about media fandoms in general, they just suck.
expecting gamers to have any self awareness or indeed any comprehension of anything other than their own base pleasures is a recipe for disappointment. they're children
I am the media I consume and I will defend myself. If you tell me why you like something else instead, that is an attack against me. Also if that media changes in a way I don't like, the creators are insidiously stealing a part of me
This is what happens when you atomize people so much that their choices of media consumption are the only things they can think to build a collective identity around.
Fandom dynamics and the attention economy turn enjoyment of media into a competition by making us associate consumption with our identities.
You can engage in conspicuous consumption by always having the newest games and consoles, so they become class signifiers. At that point, it’s possible to be a “better” consumer not only by buying more but also by knowing more.
I watched the official Nintendo trailer for the game and I couldn't get over the narrator speaking like she's addressing a kindergarten class.
I'm sure the game is fun but dang, it really made me feel like I was looking at an ad for the latest vtech console. I don't actually like 2d platformers though so its not even relevant for me. It was just a shock since I haven't watched an ad for a nintendo game in so long.
That may be so, but the Sega Saturn is a real religion and if you're not on board with Radiant Silvergun then you're pretty much a l@me n00b who deserves to get pwn'd.
It's like how people argue over iPhones and Androids. They think their personal experience is some kind of universal truth when it's really just some mix of personal use case and marketing.
People like being part of a group to attach to their identity. Sports teams. Political parties. Area codes. Schools. Companies. Communities. Gangs. Churches. Game consoles.
But for there to be an "us," there has to be a "them." People care because humans are tribal creatures. Some people just have more restraint than others.