the_dunk_tank @hexbear.net star_wraith [he/him] @hexbear.net 7 mo. ago

Imagine getting triggered by… colors on a flag

This is shaping up to be the thing right wing nuts get outraged about this upcoming week. I feel like this is a good litmus test… anyone who gets angry about this is probably way more of a white nationalist than they are letting on. You think these same people who be angry about a blue/white/orange tricolor, saying it’s too close to the Dutch flag?

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The original tweet is not even correct in any way. Ilhan Omar is not from Puntland, she's from Mogadishu. Her father is from the area of Puntland. But Puntland didn't even exist on a map until 1998 - when Ilhan Omar was 17 years old. No one in her family, including her, ever lived in a place called "Puntland." Her father was basically from the area that became Puntland, but never lived in it at any time it was referred to as "Puntland."

Furthermore, the Puntland flag is from 2009 - 14 years after Ilhan Omar's family was in the United States. Not even her father has any ties to that flag, its extremely modern. Chuds will just find anything to get worked up over.

edit: Puntland didn't even exist until 3 years after Ilhan Omar's family was in the United States

edit 2: furthermore, I'd love to see EndWokeness' source for "largest Somali population in the west" because I don't think that's true either. I'm pretty sure London has more Somali people than Minnesota.
- I guess this dude is counting on nobody outside Minnesota looking into this at all, because even the Wikipedia page on their state flag has a subsection for the North Star Flag design from 1989 that most of the redesign finalists are based on.
  
  I can't believe the Minnesotans colonized Puntland smh.
- Somali born population in London in 2011: 65,330
  
  Somali born population in Minnesota in 2021: 37,048
that's cool I didn't know they were getting rid of the shitty old racism one.

Mostly performative, but still cool.

I do dislike this trend towards minimalism in flags, though. Flags should have weapons and fantasy animals and weird symbolism. There was an alternative proposal that I think was like a loon firing laser beams at Wisconsin from its eyes or something.

Edit: The flag should have just said "HA HA FUCK YOU VIRGINIA WE'VE STILL GOT YOUR FLAG" in comic sans.
- As outlined in the Constitution of Angola, the red half of the flag signifies bloodshed – during Angola's colonial period, independence struggle, and in defense of the country. The black half symbolizes Africa. In the central emblem, the gear represents industrial workers and production, the machete represents peasantry, agricultural production and the armed struggle, and the star, shaped like the red star, symbolizes international solidarity and progress. The yellow color of the emblem symbolizes the country's wealth.
  
  revisionism:
  
  The Constitution of 1975 described the red stripe as symbolizing bloodshed during the colonial period, national liberation and a revolution – and reference to revolution was replaced with "defense of the country" in the constitution of 1992. In other changes of wording between the 1975 and 1992 versions, the star was changed from a symbol of "internationalism" to "international solidarity", and references to "working class" and "peasant class" were replaced with "workers" and "peasants"
- I do dislike this trend towards minimalism in flags
  
  I blame map gamers and r/vexillology, and I'm probably not even wrong.
  
  Even if you are wrong, fuck those nerds.
Old flag is so ugly

First off it's way too busy, at a distance it doesn't look like anything

Second, racist as hell

Third, not symmetrical

Just awful, one of the worst flags I've ever seen
- Yeah, that first one is classic US state flag design, incomprehensible and fails at everything a flag is supposed to do. The new one works quite well as a flag.
  
  I think the new one is… fine. An improvement. But it’s still more of just stars and tricolors.
Oh no, Somali immigrants getting some acknowledgement, the horror!
- Something tells me the people who have a problem with this wouldn’t have a problem with a flag that acknowledges the Norwegian or Swedish settlers who were there.
  
  Fuckers would have loved putting that fake runestone on it or something.
- Yeah, even if this were true--which it almost certainly isn't--how is this a problem (or "woke")? The state flag design paying homage to something demographically unique about the state seems pretty reasonable to me.
  
  nope that's woke
They made a better flag, it's joever, I can hear the red judeo-bolshevik army stomping in the streets already.
I thought it was the gay fella flag
- What if it was Mannesota and it was just for the fellas
  
  Would explain why I left when I came out
Why do reactionaries get so damn mad about flags being changed? Are they just so reactionary that literally any change at all sends them into a frothing at the mouth rage? Do they go to Starbucks and order a coffee and just blow up at the cashier when they say "here's your change."?
- What other culture do they have?
  
  yogurt they left in the fridge
- I think you nailed it.
- They've been whipped into a frenzy, believing that there is a plot against them where the evil people seek to literally kill them and everything they hold dear in life (meaning, a life like in a 1950s sitcom). Every change is seen as a means to that end and they keep getting angrier.
  
  Especially since neoliberalism encourages many of the things they're deathly afraid of (for example "open borders [at least in the propaganda they use] and immigration are good because people are not getting enough children and we need people to come work for us" or "We need to make sure Ukraine wins for the sake of human rights. For that we must all suffer a bit economically, [as Russian trade is cut off and cheap workforce and companies from Ukraine flood the EU market]")
  
  Meanwhile socialism is both discredited by propaganda (making it universally agreed on that it is bad for the nation - something both libs and Fascists hold dear), and appears eternally split on what the right considers the most important questions.
  
  Those are horrible times. The libs either agree with the chuds with a "Yes, but you're bad people" (I saw a debate recently between a far-right politician and a former government minister from the 80s, and when the lib said the AfD wanted to deport immigrants - he replied that that's exactly what the Scholz government was supporting.) and only disagree on the basis of foreign policy. Meanwhile socialists are still dead, and by the natural attrition of time, we only get less each year.
- Are they just so reactionary that literally any change at all sends them into a frothing at the mouth rage?
  
  Pretty much, yeah.
this is so much better than the winning submission that they based it on. i was curious about the motivation of the person who created it so did a little digging. Original submission that was selected was White/Green/Blue with a nato star.
- a nato star.
  
  🤮🤮🤮
The new flag is way cooler. I'm sure vexologists would agree.
- it doesn't take a lot of work to improve upon state level flags in the US. They're notoriously bad. They're mostly blue fields with a central seal that's too busy. Virginia's gets a pass as tolerable though because it depicts a lady killing a dude.
  
  fun fact, Oklahoma's state flag had to get changed in 1925 because its previous design (a red field with a star in the center) made everyone think Oklahoma was communist
  
  I like busy flags and banners
  
  Critical support for Oklahoma bringing back the commie flag.
Real talk though that flag is ugly. I would be so happy and excited for states finally replacing their dumb state-seal-on-a-background flags if the replacements weren’t so God awful.
That’s not even the flag. This is the template flag they selected. They might go with a variant of it which that flag is one of many possibilities, but they’ll probably just end up going with the template.
i'm still fucking pissed that the finalists/winner forced me to agree with CPG grey, wtf are these people declaring it woke for

ah yes the flag with utterly pedestrian provenance and reddit-tier sensibilities: is this ISLAMIC EXTREMISM??
Schlomann is correct. A state apparatus full of people like End Wokeness won't be able to manage a functioning society for much longer.
- Just look at Florida.
Me, after seeing red and green Christmas decorations at the mall: "God damn Moldovans coming over here putting the colours of the Pridnestrovian flag on my mall!"
where's the link, :LIB: ❓
- here it is
  
  https://nitter.net/NateSchlomann/status/1736467459010388051#m
Maybe Zamasu was right after all. What's with humans and their violent adherence to bigotry?
You think these same people who be angry about a blue/white/orange tricolor, saying it’s too close to the Dutch flag?

These people are very strange to me, wtf is the tweet supposed to mean? That theres an evil plot by the Somalis to take over fucking mini soda? And they are doing this by changing a flag? Like wtf is this?

Seems like some people just want to get angry at random stuff for no reason at all But that what you get when your political ideology is based on hate.
I really wonder what the reaction would have been to F253 winning. That one was pure gold.
agressively awful color scheme in my opinion. Colors should either compliment or contrast better, right now it just looks like a washed out polo someone got for Easter. Wish they went with the one of someone's dog

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