CNN Poll: Percentage of Republicans who think Biden's 2020 win was illegitimate ticks back up near 70%
CNN Poll: Percentage of Republicans who think Biden's 2020 win was illegitimate ticks back up near 70%
The share of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who believe that President Joe Biden’s 2020 election win was not legitimate has ticked back up, according to a new CNN poll fielded throughout July.
The share of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who believe that President Joe Biden’s 2020 election win was not legitimate has ticked back up, according to a new CNN poll fielded throughout July. All told, 69% of Republicans and Republican-leaners say Biden’s win was not legitimate, up from 63% earlier this year and through last fall, even as there is no evidence of election fraud that would have altered the outcome of the contest.
The Republican Party has become a doctrinaire anti-American organization; wholly subservient to the international fascist movement.
Why would any loyal American patriot be a member of it?
The Republicans stand against what America actually is.
The USA is a multicultural society. The Republicans are against that.
The USA is a leader in science; including the understanding of our planet's climate. The Republicans are against that.
The USA is loyal to its international allies. The Republicans are against that.
The USA is committed to freedom of speech and of the press. The Republicans are against that.
The USA is a leader in technology; including the development of clean energy. The Republicans are against that.
The USA is a secular society, in which people of different religions can meet as equals in the marketplace of ideas. The Republicans are against that.
The USA is a capitalist economy; in which businesses may prosper without having to bend the knee to leaders' personality-cults or their ideological doctrine. The Republicans are against that.
The USA is an educated society; with free schooling for all, and with some of the best universities in the world. The Republicans are against that.
In all of these ways, the Republicans have endorsed anti-Americanism — opposition to what the USA actually is, its actual strengths and virtues.
As a conservative, this is mind boggling to me. In my head I think it's just a far right crazy conspiracy theory, but between this and the huge amount of support trump gets, I'm just baffled. I'm on the west coast, and none of my friends or family still support Trump or are election deniers.
Maybe the mid west republicans are just 100% trumpers? It's wild.
Yeah I'm telling you. There is an older crowd that it doesn't matter what you say to them, they run on hate and they've been given a lot of fuel.
Remember the 2000 election? That was a close one. One county in one state with a 500 vote difference. 2020 were 5 states with 10k votes in Arizona to 180k votes in Pennsylvania to Biden. If they pulled 13k votes for out of Trump’s ass for AZ and GA he would of still would of lost the election. They key to the White House is the rust belt. Republicans are too dumb to understand this.
This doesn’t mean much when large swaths of them believe the earth is flat, the moon landing was faked, slavery helped black people, etc. Asking them their opinions on reality is like asking an amoeba how it feels about NFTs. The levels of insane & stupid coming from these people just means their thoughts & opinions are irrelevant.
It's a variety of topics I find denial of reality to be increasing. Climate change science, including the history of how long ago people like Carl Sagan made it a widespread topic. Medical science with pandemics, nonsensical views on how vaccines work. Wild views about how windmills work and interact with the environment.
These people are just entitled babies. They know Trump didn't win, but it feels good feelings to pretend that he did so back to the social media that reinforces that.
We need to stop caring about their delusional indulgence in non-reality and start getting the country back on track. Never vote for a single Republican again. I don't care if you're a moderate even - there is no safe Republican candidate for a long while, if ever.
Does anybody else hope (emphasis on hope lol) they’re just saying this out of spite? Perhaps they know he lost, and are just saying this because they know it will “piss off the libs?”
Maybe it’s naive, but while I am pretty liberal a-lot of my family is (unfortunately) republican and they all admit Trump lost, fair and square. They also say they’re sick of him, wish he would drop out of the race, and allow another, younger republican to be nominated. They’ve also not been contacted by any of these pollsters.
Admittedly, this is just my experience with a very narrow slice of republicans; outside my family, I don’t really interact with too many.
Thoughts? Am I just fortunate to not have to interact with the Trump cult on a daily basis? Or is the US just screwed? lol
The rational Republicans left the party ages ago. Pretty sure George Will closed the door behind him on the way out.
When was that? 2016?
Troll farms wouldn't be a thing if they weren't effective. Social media has poisoned a lot of minds. I am in my mid-40s and grew up in NE Texas which is part of the "Deep South" (assign to that what you will) and in my lifetime I've seen things that would just not be possible if it were not for the internet.
"Back in my day..." Reading the newspaper was more than sufficient. There were no (edit: few and/or less easily manifest beyond a 'google search') collective hive minds and echo chambers so you had to actually express and own an opinion. I was taught that "this is what Science tells us how God put into motion the universe" We didn't need concealed or open carry to feel safe.
I'm not really that old. I honestly think most of this crap is 9/11. The terrorists actually won. Fear. There is a culture of fear pervading the USA and international troll farms took root and we continue to deal with the fallout today. Not to get too deep into the weeds .. dwindling middle class but .. who gives a shit .. capitalism. When you can't provide for your family on a base wage .. shit is going to go sideways.
The thoughts of a conservative should be treated the same way the thoughts of a five year old child are treated.
Discussing any topic with a conservative is a waste of time for both parties. Every word uttered by a conservative is deception, manipulation or innacurate. Nothing good comes from interacting with them. Nothing at all. They should be disregarded and shunned from polite society.
Don't believe polling on either side, get out and vote.
Propaganda works on stupid people. There's a whole lotta stupid in this country.
How about we do something about the big propaganda networks and 24x7 "news" channels that are more interested in ratings and entertainment than simply reporting. No more talking heads.
Two possibilities: Either more people are buying into conspiracy theories or more people are declining to identify as Republicans which makes the percentage go up. I'm hopeful it's the latter but fearful it's the latter.
Republicans are (sore) losers. They love "news" that fuels their hate. They cling to their lies, even as those lies fall apart in front of them. Pathetic.
There's no way CNN's poll is accurate.. I hope
The brain worms have stirred awake in the summer heat
Knowing them, not much of a shock.
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That’s because Repuglicans are self selecting. People need to stop seeing them as half of the population. They are not.
The damage that Fox News and Trump have done to these people's brains is incalculable.
The administration really needs to bring back fireside chats. These people are living in a different reality and have no trust in institutions. Only through a concerted effort to educate them can we combat the disinformation. Or bring back the fairness doctrine.
Basically, they were convinced by facts, but now their stupidity has made them forget with all the money fueled slogans getting chanted.
what's croc of shit. Trump was surrounded by Russian stooges who were convicted in court of law.
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Election denial isn't specifically a republican thing.
Remember: 70% of Republicans is only 25ish% of the nation. Plenty of people in reserves to keep those dirt bags out.
While I still have some sympathy left for the few sane people in this once great nation, I'm at a point now where it is hard to really sympathize with you as a people. The political system is corrupted beyond recognition, toxicity and hate run rampant due to the allmighty "free speech" amendment and yet nobody seems to actually care if they are not personally affected in horrible ways.
By now it's really easy to say "you get the government that you deserve". And yet I dont fully believe it or want to say it because that would express the same apathy that you folks display when it comes to being governed.
So.. maybe get your shit together collectively?!
69% of republicans say Biden's win in 2020 is illegitimate. Democrats point to Russian interference in Trump's 2016 election. Republicans claim Obama's 2012 and 2008 win is illegitimate because he was born in Kenya (gee, even if that was true, McCain was born in Panama!). Democrats object to Bush's 2004 win certification due to Diebold messing with machines in Ohio. Democrats claim Bush's 2000 win was the result of Supreme court interference. Republicans try to overturn Clinton's 1996 win with impeachment over a sexual affair. Republicans actually accept Clinton's 1992 win.
The excuses may not compare, but I find it troubling that it has been 31 years since the loosing party actually accepted a loss as legitimate.
The laws and changes to the US in Biden's time as a career politician have taken mine and other's right to vote away. The Demopublicans are one party working towards the same goals the elitists set for them. No matter which "party" wins we the people lose.
Don't forget to check out https://hereistheevidence.com/ which has a nice collection of dodgy things that happened for the election that was all but confirmed by Time here: https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/ that there was work going on in the background to "fortify" the result that they wanted.
And this is apparently the saviors of democracy.
