What’s a thing you miss that you’re 90% sure was objectively awful?
What’s a thing you miss that you’re 90% sure was objectively awful?
Limewire.
What’s a thing you miss that you’re 90% sure was objectively awful?
Limewire.
My alcohol addiction
E-cards. I got at least some cards for my birthday...
The 2000's.
not being on ADHD and depression meds
Hey OP, limewire lives on in Soulseek
It's still running to this day, i use it alll the time
1990s internet. Yeah it had to start somewhere and a lot of them were butt-ugly for design. Now 2000s internet up until roughly 2009, that's the shit.
My Uncle.
Life before cellphones and internet.
Did you know in 1990 only .25% of the world’s population (12.5 million) had cellphones and only .05% (2.8 million) had internet?
It feels like we sacrificed local community and connection for global information overload and disconnection sometimes.
in 1990... only .05% (2.8 million) had internet?
In 1990, the World Wide Web wasn't even available outside of CERN/university usage yet. That didn't become widely available to the public until 1993, and the first ISP would have only been established a year prior, in 1989.
This, to me, is like saying originally that only Edison had light bulbs in January of 1880.
GenX, here. You are so very, very wrong. Phones and internet have made anxiety disorders endemic. We’re constantly bombarded with information, alerts, opinions, information and misinformation…
Young people have never experienced what it’s like to have privacy. To leave the house and be totally unreachable. To get answering machine messages that you had no obligation to immediately respond to.
I’m in big tech and helped develop all this shit. We made it addictive on purpose. I’d love to go back to how things were in the 90s, and I’m not waxing nostalgic. Things were objectively better before all this crap.
In 1990 my father negotiated a new contract for himself, with IBM. He's a computer programmer consultant that can program in 72 languages including Cobol and Lisp.
The one thing he absolutely insisted upon was that he wouldn't have to carry a pager. He still refuses to carry a cell phone.
The one thing he absolutely insisted upon was that he wouldn’t have to carry a pager. He still refuses to carry a cell phone.
I've recently started a new job, and it's the first I was unable to negotiate no pager, but I was a 'motivated applicant'.
Wow, does it suck. This is also the LAST job I will have with an expectation of interrupted sleep and never-fucking-ending weekend bullshit. I will frame it as a reliability/change-control question that if after-hours changes are required, then the customer has a broken H.A set-up.
A buddy of mine owned a video game store that I worked at for a bit. The pay was crappy and the hours were unstable and random, but I do miss working there.
I worked at a dial-up ISP in the late 1990s and it was the most enjoyable job I've ever had (it also helped considerably that we could smoke inside). Sadly it paid really poorly and they weren't willing to make me full-time because of budgetary concerns, so I was ultimately forced to take a job that paid double and had great benefits but that I hated.
As a teen, I worked at a restaurant as a cook. The pay was terrible, the hours were unforgiving, the amount of cuts, bruises, and burns I got deserved hazard pay, and my coworkers were overly dramatic backstabbers. Liked the cooking and getting through a huge rush of customers, loved that when I left for the day my responsibilities and thoughts about work were behind me.
I worked at a fast food joint in the early 90s where often I was the only person running the kitchen during lunch rush because we were understaffed. It was hectic and utterly batshit and the pay was minimum wage, but those times when we were super busy I felt like a goddamned superhero because I would just get into the zone and be the eye of the hurricane managing the chaos with grace and elegance. It felt so damned good during but especially after. It was a shit job and I was glad to move on to something better, but it had its moments.
Websites with frames.
Xanga, anyone?
And the crucial "Break out of frames!" link which I always appreciated
Trusting the government
Ha. Very true. The people that were clued in knew you couldn't trust the gov't, but the lack of easy information meant most people had no idea.
My first vehicles as an adult in the mid to late 90s. Objectively cheap used jalopies that I bought for a few hundred dollars but were loved because they were mine.
My first car was a 1981 Dodge Aries K-Car. The front bumper got ripped off by a guy running with no headlights while I was delivering pizzas and I literally just threw the bumper on the back seat and continued on with my deliveries, then went to my local pick-a-part and took a replacement off a different one and bolted it on myself. You just couldn't kill it.
I eventually replaced it with an 1984 Sentra that I bought at auction. I called it the "relationship killer" because the passenger door didn't open from the outside so there was no way to "open the door for your date to get in first", and half the time it didn't go into reverse, so since my dates didn't know how to drive standard transmissions, they were the one that had to push us out of parking spaces. It honked when turning left for some reason.
My point being, when things were wrong with them, they were cheap enough that you could just go to the local pick-a-part and get replacement parts. If it wasn't starting for some reason, you could stick a screw driver in the carburetor valve to give it more air. You could "own" and "tinker" on those things in ways that doing so in a new car would terrify us.
Man I had my handful of these end of the line vehicles, loved them. I had one car so beaten up by me and my buddies, when it finally died one day I just left it on the side of the road and never saw it again - couldn’t afford to tow it and fix it and would have cost more than it was worth. I pour out a cold one for you, old ride. That one’s name was Blue Goose.
Those old beaters contain the best memories. Vehicles today are just kind of soulless. (IMO)
Connecting to dialup and listening to computers scream at each other over the phone line.
Yes that was bad. And it was always so loud for some reason. But I'd argue better than waiting in silence.
I'd agree. I kind of developed a Pavlovian response of excitement to the noise. Back then though, the Internet was nothing like it is now though. There was a time when we didn't even have websites, we had stuff like Internet Relay Chat (still around actually), Usenet, and subscription services like America Online. There was Gopher, but it really wasn't the same as the web.
Like many others have said, the old, lost internet was really something special. Every website was crude and janky, poorly formatted for some specific resolution that you weren't using, and both animated clipart and midis were exciting to collect. There were websites dedicated to them. My brother and I used to fill folders on our desktop with sparkling or flaming banners, signs that read "Under Construction" and more. Same with midis. I'll never forget the first time I discovered Sublime's Santaria in midi form. It may have been my first favorite song.
I wish I could properly articulate what that all felt like. It was a similar feeling to collecting Pokémon cards as a kid. Everything was just a neat spectacle on the mid-90s internet. Then over time, as everything modernized and monetized, it lost that weird magic and became what it is today. I can't remember the last time I gave a shit about exploring a website. I no longer come across spooky animated images of a skeleton peering out of murky water and excitedly tuck it away for future viewing pleasure. The entire thing sucks now, but it probably sucked then, too.
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I miss old PC Games from the early 90's.
I've reinstalled all that I remember and they sucked, but back then, they didn't.
Check out the remake of C&C!
Also Commandos still rock IMO!
Some of them got open sourced btw:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2229890/view/502818210084553731?l=english
I played through it recently. It is one of the few EA titles where I will concede that they did a good job and that I feel I got my moneys worth.
Try age of empires too!
Police Quest.
WKD Blue
I was an 80’s kid, and we had the best Saturday morning cartoons.
Transformers, GI Joe, Scooby Doo, Thundar the Barbarian, Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends, Superfriends, Hurculoids, etc.
I loved Saturday morning cartoons! I used to get up at 630 to watch them all. It made me so happy 😊
Going out with friends between 1991 and 1997. It was a great time looking back, but most night probably were just a lot of (underage) drinking and not much else.
Let's make it 100%. Dial up noise, window XP startup and shutdown tune
Nah they had a vibe, no shame in enjoying them
Working in a bar
I love people. I'm a people-person, but I kno know that I am remembering it through rose-tinted lenses
Most customers were average, a few were great, a fair number were dicks
But the hours, the late nights, the cost to my own social life, the lousy pay, the inability to eat normal meals at normal times, all of that shit takes a toll
But I still have some fond memories and occasionally think about opening a bar with my woman
Oh, and I was running a place with a long-term partner. Doing that shit was the final nail in the coffin of our relationship, so fuck that...
Good Bartenders make a place.
We Salute You.
Great answer, exactly the kind I was looking for.
Windows XP.
A security nightmare, had more unfinished backends than a plexiglass gloryhole.... But goddamn could that machine run
People remember Service Pack 2 as the definitive version. Base and Service Pack 1 XP was awful.
Service Pack 3 refined it a bit better.
I had the Student XP cracked version. That baby was smoooth
Early 90s.....I think you mean windows 3.1, bro.
Windows ME too. Or maybe it was just playing Red Alert 2 on it.
Fucking red alert, man. Our computer couldn't handle it, so it would take 20 minutes to build a single refinery as the individual frames t. i. c. k. e. d. b. y. Meanwhile, our parents' rule was we had to switch who was using the computer every 30 minutes. That fucking sucked.
That was my first Windows and it was unstable as hell. Barely had anything installed on that PC and yet it had random blue screens and crap like that. Really scared me as a PC beginner.
I miss my first two cars. The first was a 1989 Dodge Daytona which was probably the worst car ever made and it only lasted 6 months before the head gasket blew. The second was a 1995 Ford Escort LX sedan. This was the car that I taught myself how to drive manual transmission on. It was more reliable than the Daytona, but it still had a ton of quirks like shorts in the wiring harness in the steering column --so much so that I learned which pins to short out to hot wire it lol. I miss both of those cars because of the sense of freedom they provided to get away from an emotionally abusive home life.
That Daytona looked like the KITT you had at home tho. Still looked pretty cool. I know nothing about the car at all, but I like the look of it.
The smell of leaded gasoline.
The smell of a fine cigar: I quit smoking 14 years ago but I miss that.
And I'm 200% sure they were awful.
this might shock you, but I have never smelled leaded gasoline. I'm too young, it got banned before I was born.
what did it smell like?
leaded gasoline
Few memories trigger a nostalgic response in me than this. Ahhh, I'm in heaven
smell is the sense most strongly linked to memory
Are you sure you're not just thinking of the smell of carburetor engines? I think I know the smell you're thinking of and its the exhaust of a vintage carburetor engine.
Was there really a different smell for leaded gasoline?
No, it's the smell at the pump. Nothing to do with how the engine feeds itself. Yeah, leaded gasoline smelled different. "Sweeter" or something. Maybe it wasn't the lead, and maybe whatever replaced the lead inside modern gasoline is what smells different, but it definitely isn't the same.
It's not like gasoline smelled better, it's just that I remember smelling that smell when the entire family went on summer holidays and we kids were allowed to stretch our legs while our dad gassed up the car. Good times and good memories!
The wait before things worked.
Yes, it's better to get what you want no delay. But the pace of life, the rhythm, has changed. I'm old, it's true, but I'm still gonna throw it out there.
Yes, it's 90% better now. But I miss waiting.
Candy cigarettes.
Bad tasting sugar. Trains you for holding a real one.
But they were at the gas station a mile from home and near a park. Freedom from family and responsibilities. Just spending time with friends, eating candy, enjoying the sun shine. Dreaming of smoking.
Little Caesar's as a traditional pizza parlor.
The old pizza hut was better
My friends and I hit up the pizza hut regularly and would just hang out playing cruisin' USA and whatever fighting cabinet they had set up in the pickup waiting area. Never once got pizza there.
The employees must have hated our guts, but they never kicked us out so we couldn't have been that bad.
I have fond memories of Little Caesar's and Pizza Hut for very different reasons and neither taste or feel like I remember from being a kid. Not sure how much is being older and how much is the two companies going cheaper on ingredients and labor.
No chance, Pizza Hut was gut-rumbler food and Caesar's had better breadsticks. Amazing breadsticks!
I can't ever look or taste a little caesar's pizza the same way again. The last time I had one was back in 2018 and they tasted so dry and you get maybe three seconds of pizza before it is all just dryness mushing together. Definitely was better as a kid.
Pizza! Pizza!
Being absolutely sure about everything.
Kids can be so annoying with that.
Not just kids...
Only knowing small TVs. Step by step, displays have inarguably improved massively, and I do love my giant OLED flatscreen. But watching TV was still great fun in the before times, people still watched the hell out of it, so can we say it brings people more joy now? Or is it just technically and visually better?
I think if you're the kinda person watching beautiful premium shows, that's an experience you couldn't really get before. But I like TV that I can have on in the background, while I'm doing the dishes, and now we're expected to pay attention to details on screen. Back when half the audience had tiny, grainy or monochrome displays, shows were written to suit listening as much as watching. And it's not just scripts, shoddy visuals allowed costumes, sets and design that was evocative but cheap, in a way that cannot pass muster today.
And by comparison, it's reduced the justification for going to cinema, and even kinda made the real world look bad. It used to be worth going somewhere in person because it would look infinitely better than seeing it on a screen. But now, it can actually be a disappointment, as the carefully composed filmed version with post production actually looks more impressive than irl. It's the Connoisseurs Paradox, has it really deepend my pleasure, or merely raised my standards so much that I'm actually less satisfied?
I think the same can be applied for personal computers and smartphones. Mundane things were so fun on those devices.
My ex.
Check out Soulseek. I recommend the client nicotine+
Highlander III
I don't think I've seen it since it was in theaters!
My memory is that it was fun to go see with a friend, but haven't had the urge to rewatch it since while I've watched the first over a dozen times and watched the alternate cuts of the second.
The first was a masterpiece
You should look into soulseeked then.
Dude limewire was great. Nice logo, good color scheme, had pretty much everything. Other things have just gotten better in some ways, and worse in others. (Torrents are often way better quality, but it was nice being able to search limewire vs. searching the web and wading through sketchy torrent sites).
Mind you downloading things on limewire could be sketchy too
Yes for sure! But if you didn't download executables or other files that could contain code, you were usually ok.
The crazy thing about it is people got digital music from all kinds of sources back then - mix CDs, recordings, etc, and would create the title/artist/album tags by hand, so you'd see all kinds of wrong information.
Like you could probably download "Dancing in the Moonlight - Van Morrison.mp3" on limewire, but really you'd be getting either "Moon Dance" by Van Morrison, "Dancing in the Moonlight" by King Crimson, or rarely, something else entirely.
Windows 98
Windows XP
Dialup
The Old Internet aka when 90% of it was html and shockwave flash
Weird childhood obsessions; some were good, some were bad, some became things that defined me as an adult.
A lot of the edutainment games I played as a child. I actually went back and installed them to see what they were like through the eyes of an adult. There were a few that were still fun, but as you might be able to guess, most were pretty shitty.
That said, there have been a few things that ended up being 100% worth revisiting. CRT monitors, for an example, are unironically still kinda awesome. I just wouldn't replace my main monitors with one.
The edutainment games were great! I still remember one where you would fight robots through a factory to build your vehicle that you would race against the villain. It was all about bigger engines being more powerful but weighty, larger tires and their racing characteristics vs. smaller tires, airplane wing styles... I think it's why my brother is an engineer now, lol.
The ones I had were pretty shitty, lol. Like, I had some good ones like Zoombinis or Freddi Fish, but most of them were stuff like "Milly's Math House".
I, unfortunately, have had all nostalgia for WinXP removed after having to support it in corporate environments. I wish I could say that was a decade ago, but no, I'm still supporting it periodically.
For me I'd put the old Internet and the edutainment games in the good category -- most were pretty good, only some were bad that I can remember.
Although Gmail, digg, and reddit pretty much changed the game for what was possible on the Internet.
Undertale fandom — I'm no longer part of it, I'm not interested in becoming part of it again, and it was awful, but I kinda miss it.
From what I understand it got very wild after a time, I can see the appeal if I look at it from the right angle
Random things I liked as a kid. I was obsessed with Spy Kids for a bit.
All my friend's parents smoked when I was younger, but mine didn't so I always associated the smell of cigarettes with meeting my friends. I absolutely hate the smell today, but I still get a flash of nostalgia when I smell cigarette smoke.
I used to loathe the smell of ciggies, especially when it lingered in fabrics and on surfaces. My parents didn't smoke and I knew it was bad for people.
Now I like the smell of fresh ciggies :/
Pretending I could make something or my life...
Old school 4chan