I've read the best addendum to this too
"Raw milk isn't that big a deal, you just gotta boil it first!"
At that point you might as well pasteurise the milk yourself lol.
Back in CA, the "raw water" bazingas were especially wild. They took the "raw milk" thing and somehow made it worse.
It came in these silly glass orbs too. Silicon Valley
are wild.Even worse than the raw water bazingas are the alkaline water bazingas. They process their water to be slightly alkaline for "health benefits". As if that would even survive interacting with stomach acid or have any measureable effect on acidity in the body. It also tastes terrible too.
I hate all of these movements that are tearing down historic gains in public health. Raw milk, raw water, anti-vaxxers. Fucking loser assholes. They just don't have any conception at all of how much death and misery they've never experienced because of public health regulations.
The anti-vax stuff really pisses me off, especially when it's spouted by people born before 1960. Polio killed so many children and crippled the ones it didn't. And practically overnight, we developed a miracle cure in the form of the polio vaccine. Completely eradicated in North America when it used to kill thousands each year. There are people alive right now who can remember losing classmates in grade school to polio.
Then you get into stuff like whooping cough. Basically unheard of for fifty years because of vaccines. Now it's come back and people are finding out it's fucking terrifying to die by coughing up your lungs.
I hate all of these movements that are tearing down historic gains in public health. Raw milk, raw water, anti-vaxxers
I feel the exact same way and I despair when I watch centuries of hard-won improvements in societal health being dismantled and dissolved because of dipshits "doing the research" themselves and finding whatever bullshit fits what they want to believe.
- The worst thing these raw milk cranks have ever done is make me agree with a Matt Walsh take
it worries me that ill accidentally buy this shit without realizing its not normal milk and get sick
Almond milk (and other plant milks) don't have this problem
You can still get listeriosis from improperly made nut milks. Two people recently died in Canada because of that. Listeria bacteria in milk is a particularly serious issue because it can survive and multiply at refrigeration temperatures. So please don't drink unpasteurized almond milk, or try to make your own almond milk using raw unpasteurized almond nuts.
Thankfully the "raw milk" aficionados haven't started targeting nut milks yet though.Okay about that last part, unfortunately it was incorrect. I googled "unpasteurized almond milk" and apparently "raw vegans" are big on posting "raw almond milk" recipes, which make use of raw unpasteurized almonds. Please avoid this crank behaviour and use pasteurised or treated almonds to make your own almond milk.
Also, I found the instructions in one recipe particularly funny. It involved sterilising the glass containers for the finished milk, but made use of raw almonds and did not involve any pasteurization process afterwards. Struggling to make sense of that...
And it's fucking delicious omfg
i do typically go for oat milk if im gonna drink it. But for recipes that use milk u cant just sub in nut milk all the time.
those aren't even raw milks. at least the 3 on the right side aren't
"Raw milk tastes SO much better, man! That's all we're going to drink once we move out to our new acreage."
- Some dickhead I used to work with, two years before his first child died.
I hate Homesteaders. Just absolute dad from The VVitch types
i have some fucked up milk addiction where I get straight up cravings for that shit, it's like a special sort of hunger that is only satisfied by milk (nobody needs to tell me about caseomorphins btw, I already know), and it's wild hearing these raw milk weirdos talk about the taste. it already tastes good! it's like they're not happy without the milk equivalent of shooting fentanyl into their balls
"First world civilized"
From what I understand, the only time raw milk makes sense is for making cheese
why
Pretty sure these sorts of people are also against water fluoridation as well as vaccines
Pasturization is woke hippie commie regulation shit Matt. This is what caused the sissification of men!
Return to tradition and suck it right from the teet. 
/SHey America how’s that bird flu prevention going?
People buy this shit? There are remote farmers in my department who will drink it and the communities they live in tend to have high mortality and sickness rates. Definitely not something you want to drink if you can avoid it.
What’s supposed to be the appeal?
It’s playing Russian roulette with your gut. Sure you arbitrarily think you are feeling better for now but people are guaranteed to get maimed for life with IBD amongst other things. Milk is revolting when you read what’s in it.
FUCKConsuming raw milk when you're buying it from a small/peasant farmer that doesn't do much to their cows is one thing. Buying it from factory farms or any large scale operation is another thing entirely.
Additionally raw milk is actually really helpful for people trying to make cultures. My aunt and uncle used to make keffir and they had way better results with raw milk than pasturized. In their case the fermentation was actually a way of sanitizing the food of harmful bacteria.
It should be noted that even pasteurized milk can still be unhealthy and cause various health issues, for best results consider
Consuming raw milk when you're buying it from a small/peasant farmer that doesn't do much to their cows is one thing.
This is how you get listeria.
I thought that was from eating the lunch meat they have at Kroger
Im not saying that raw milk is better for you. Im just saying that the conditions of the cows vary wildly depending on situation. Like, even if you think raw milk could be ok to drink a super market is realllly not the place to find it.
Why are we fetishizing small farms? We are communists. You will work in the sovkhoz and you will like it.
Consuming raw milk when you're buying it from a small/peasant farmer that doesn't do much to their cows is one thing.
Pasteurization was invented in the 1860s and they felt like they needed it then.
Edit: Wikipedia says 1886 is when it was first suggested to pasteurize milk. So close enough.
The 1870s-1900s was probably the least safe time in the US to consume anything.
Cow milk is for baby cows, period.
In their case the fermentation was actually a way of sanitizing the food of harmful bacteria.
Wait until you hear about pasteurization. If you're making kefir you're making kefir, if you're sanitizing food there's easier ways
The point I was making is just that its safe if you ferment it, and that it makes better cultures than pasturized milk
The only raw anything consumers i support are people who oppose derriving any benefit from the actions of the french
This raw milk stuff is so weird to me.
I have a friend who is overall completely lactose intolerant. Her parents live out in the boonies and used to have a deal with a small dairy farmer where the farmer would bring his cows by their field to graze and in return they'd get some free milk.
This was raw milk, and my friend would have zero intolerance symptoms when she drank it. Weirdest thing. Eventually the farmer retired, but since they live so close to other farms, they'll buy raw milk when they want to do a dairy based thing so my friend can participate.
So like, raw milk is weird, I saw my friend chug an entire glass and not be rootin' tootin' all day, no stomach pain or anything. But they're in a very unique situation where there's exactly two steps in the supply chain and most people are not in that situation. It's not their standard milk, just treat now and then.
you don't have to drink raw ass milk to deal with lactose intolerance, there's literally lactase pills. there's lactose free milk!
Then they weren't lactose intolerant.
Raw milk still contains exactly the same amount of lactose.
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a guy i work with can only drink raw milk too otherwise he has all kinds of problems
its also super expensive
It's weird stuff but I don't think it's any kinda mass market solution.
Content warning for milk lol
years ago some people abused the culture of accommodating triggers and and the rule wasn't rescinded when the lie was revealed.
it's silly but we're used to it and it doesn't seem worth fighting about
CW for food is good practice for a lot of reasons imo, respect for others, eating disorders, etc
What lie?
The only reason I would ever want raw milk for anything is if I wanted to make cheese out of it
why
Milk made sense when we were nomads traveling across vast savannah and it was a nutrient source with lots of calories that was made with things we couldn't digest and could even walk by itself, but those days are long gone and almond/soy juice tastes better anyway.
