Wait what the fuck about a diabetes cure?

Just because literally every liberal president during your lifetime was a disappointment at best doesn't mean the next one will be too

Even if those liberal politicians had the best of intentions, what do they have to say for the fact they have done NOTHING to resist the white ruling class’ SIX DECADE LONG TEMPER TANTRUM over the civil rights act? Hell, Biden did nothing about the oil cartels raising prices together as one likely as protest over a non-republican in office.

Canadian Obama literally ran on ending FPTP, pretended to evaluate the alternatives, then said there was no consensus on which alternative to switch to so why bother.

Changing election systems means power giving up the path by which it got to power. Guess how likely that is.

RCV/instant runoff doesn't actually create opportunities for third parties either. Plenty of places use it and still have duopolies or single party rule. There's also fptp systems that have multiple parties engaged in government.

It's almost like political power doesn't flow from votes.

Nearly 100,000 transgender youth live in states that banned access to health care, sports, or school bathrooms in 2023

Oh, you expect Biden to do anything about the red states banning trans existence? Those are STATE ISSUES!

Also, yes, Biden does indeed have the ability to completely bypass Congress on matters of sending colossal amounts of weaponry to states actively wiping out millions of people. That's just how things landed! The system just happens to be this way! Total inability to do good things and not even vague oversight when doing bad things! If you think this is bad, then vote! ...nobody is running against changing those systematic issues except third parties, and the two parties have no reason to change this and many, MANY reasons to keep the current system intact, and we have no real way to exert power over them due to our refusal to even withdraw our votes let alone take major co-ordinated national action, but...

And even their shitty save loan forgiveness is getting blocked by courts. He's really doing a lot there

Excellent post, thank you!

also "american democracy" mentioned wowee this is an all timer

Reminds me of in 2020 I saw a post detailing Elizabeth Warren's platforms and one of the bulletpoints was simply "Healthcare"

"Trans rights" is actually the name of the ship transporting bombs to Isntreal

Liberals in general treat politics as prayer and ritual to a pantheon of polytheistic gods. You must perform the Biden voting sacrament or else the nefarious Putin will ruin this year's grape harvest.

Just like a trolley problem!

13: Anyone who calls it the Israel-Hamas war is talking in bad faith.

Trans rights will keep getting better in blue states who give a shit and worse in red states regardless of who is president

Worse in some blue states too. Washington state dems passed a forced outing law, although a judge just stopped it.

https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=2081&Initiative=true

When it comes to the "ceasefire", I'm pretty sure this means the Israeli proposal of "Hamas surrenders unconditionally and Israel continues genociding unopposed".

My single issue is that I don’t vote for people who are actively committing a genocide.

If I ever have kids, I would so fucking disgusted with myself if they asked me what I was doing during the Palestine Genocide and I said "...I voted for the person carrying out the genocide." I can't even imagine. It's like if you were German and your parent or grandparent did nothing during the Holocaust; you'd be so ashamed to be associated with them.

Oh libs absolutely love it when their party is out of power because then they get to pretend their party would fix all these problems if they just were in power. When they’re actually in power, then they have to make excuses for their impotency and that’s no fun.

Biden's policy "wins" always sound like when my boss makes me write performance review bullet points for myself when I haven't finished a damn project all year, so it's a bunch of "spearheaded exploratory efforts to design and implement _______" and "provided technical expertise for [re-]architecture of ______" bullshit that, in the end, amounts to "I tried but you motherfuckers wouldn't let me because you hurled 80% of the team's support tickets my way without even attempting to share those efforts amongst the other devs," except Genocide Joe doesn't even have that excuse.

Yea I'm not sure how they haven't figured out that posting these charts or pre written walls of text and having anybody who isn't already blue Maga go "bullshit, bullshit, bullshit" to all their claims about Biden just makes them think the person who posted it is a fucking liar, and they're currently talking about how great Biden is.

they act like that worthless old fucking pig hasn't been sitting his dying ass in the oval office for the last 4 years and like we don't know that he obviously doesn't give a fuck about any of that besides funding israel

usually it's reddit or twitter posts, so I might as well occasionally bring along some moderate-wing fascists from tumblr to round out the only 5-6 platforms on the internet

It's a nice addition to the weekly /r/curatedtumblr transmisogyny post

I'm just here like "bro I'm Black. What fuckin democracy do you think I live in?"

American democracy? Sounds like an interesting idea, when does it start?

Also it's immoral to ever vote for the candidates who support ranked choice voting.

Liberal 'you must vote for 99% hitler or you are transphobic' rhetoric (and I guess Isr*el pride month) is like the 2010s 'I am an attack helicopter that wants to drop bombs on foreign countries and if you oppose you are transphobic' chud joke but unironic.

Tbf I am compelled to correct that there is in fact a sizable ML and otherwise left wing contigent on Tumblr and last time I browsed tumblr there was quiet a lot of anti-Biden/Democrat sentiment. But people there tend to just stick to their own corners outside of the occasional clash.

Because Biden isn't left leaning.

When you stop listening to what democrats say and start looking at what they are actually doing it becomes apparent that the same laws are passing under Biden that were passing under Trump.

There comes a certain point where both parties are so far right that it becomes pointless to distinguish between the two.

At the end of the day the Dems and the GOP are both capitalist bootlickers built on a foundation of racist imperialism and neither of them are going to save us from the problems of the modern day, because they benifit from the systems in place that cause those problems.

Biden isn't to the left of Trump, he's continued all of Trump's policies.

None of Biden, his cabinet, or the Democratic Party leadership care about any of the things on this checklist. The difference is that, in a completely unrelated sphere of media coverage and political pundits, far from the handles of power, there are people who cheer for good causes and the democrats, and there are people who cheer for fascism and the republicans. That can feel like a substantive difference if you get caught up in it, but it pops like a soap bubble if you look at what people passing laws actually do.

Voting third party increases the chances that a third party will be taken seriously enough to get a significant vote next election. It's a shitty consolation prize. We have a shitty system.

I get that they're both bad options and not wanting to vote for a guy supporting a genocide,

Isn't this reason enough? If we don't draw the line at genocide, where do we draw the line?

Voting for the lesser evil is still an endorsement of evil.

You seem to be under the impression that most Americans vote matters.

With the Electoral College and how partisan state governments have gerrymandered, I can honestly say my vote, here in Texas, literally makes no difference. Biden has literally zero realistic chance of winning this state, my vote does not make any difference. So why make an empty gesture in support of a war criminal, when I can make an empty gesture by writing in a 3rd party like the PSL?

Biden has blown Trump out of the water in terms of deportations, police funding, war, prosecution of leftist activists thru RICO charges, strike-breaking of major unions (like the biggest strike-breaking since the eighties) and environmental destruction thru expansion of the US oil industry

To say nothing of the fact Biden allowed the covid social welfare benefits from the Trump era to expire which along with inflation drove tens of millions straight back into poverty, after many of them temporarily escaped it during the lockdown era

And of course the most important part: HE'S COMMITTED GENOCIDE AND TRUMP HASN'T, sorry but a real genocider is worse than a hypothetical one

This kind of presumes the policy difference here is between, say, the Nazis and the SPD (who btw were shooting communists dead in the street as late as 1930) and not, say, the Nazis and the DNVP. There are purity tests, and genocide is a pretty fair one.

Ultimately though if you're for "harm reduction", only foreign policy matters by an order of magnitude, and you should vote for whoever will fuck up US hegemony the most.

Ever hear that liberalism is the moderate wing of facism? Today's Democrat Party is now the party of and Cheney. Look up ratchet effect. Every election it just gets more right wing. Mostly because the Democrats have the same bribers as Republicans and the Democrats have no actual left to compete with to balance that pull to the right from Republicans.

Here is a 2nd thought video on how the US ended up with two right wing parties.

The benifet is tearing down the facade that we have a democracy and forcing the establishment to acknowledge 3rd parties (including in debates by default, matching public funds, news articles showing the significance) , as well as popularizing 3rd parties and getting 3rd parties elected in local representation.

As former DNC operative and current DNC media wonk Lawrence O'Donnell said "We didn't have to listen to ANYTHING on the left.....if you want to move the party to the way you are thinking you MUST show that you are capable of not voting for them."

Remember how big a deal those "non committed" votes were in the Primary? How much they made a stink of Jill Stein's votes in 2016? That's what hurts the empire. Because it is run on "consent", enough votes not consenting to the system to the point they can't ignore / fudge with is extremely significant.

Committing genocide isn't left leaning

The Democrats are a ratchet for the political spectrum in the US

Biden isn't a leftist but he's as left as the Democrats will get going forward. Like a ratchet, the Overton window slides right and then stops leftward at whatever the current Democratic president is, in this case Biden

The next one won't be Sanders, won't be AOC, won't be some surprise other SocDem candidate. The next one will be either Biden 2.0 or further right, and on and on

At best, Democrats are absolutely toothless. Plenty of red states are passing abortion outlawing and anti-queer laws, and the Democrats haven't done shit. "Oh but the President is limited in what he can do" "oh but the senate, the Democrats will be filibustered" who gives a fuck. They haven't even raised their heads from their desks, let alone done any attempt to fight for these rights. All they're doing is preventing the laws from getting worse at a federal level, if that, and that'll change immediately on the next election regardless of who wins

There is no "going from there". Voting for a candidate is inplicit support of everything the candidate does. You cannot vote for a candidate and then pick and choose your support, they don't give a fuck, all they care about is that they won on their platform. Biden will not move any left from his position, Democrats literally never have been pushed left. Any time there's left pressure, they call it loony leftist behaviour and go run to the Republicans for some bipartisan crackdowns

A lesser evil is still an evil, especially when the lesser evil really isn't that much lesser

Every single check they gave to Biden is a lie except for the doing genocide one, it's all bullshit lies, biden claimed that he would do something about some of these and then just didn't, none of this happened and if it did for some localities, it's because of local pressure or politics not Biden

wouldn't you rather the more left leaning of the two win and go from there

lmao

Joe Biden initially was a Republican when he got his start, but he switched to the Democratic party early on because Watergate made Nixon too unappetizing. I feel like it's a good summation of who he is.

I get that they're both bad options and not wanting to vote for a guy supporting a genocide, but

No. Just don't. You do not have to do the actual bit here. Joe Biden is damn near as bad as Trump on literally everything. You do not have to defend him because he is marginally less awful on a handful of items, when one of the things he is as bad (or worse on) is 'committing genocide'.

I can acknowledge there is a marginal difference between Biden and Trump. However, by accepting whatever infinitesimally small difference there is and voting for Biden, that is effectively an endorsement of everything Biden has done over the last four years (not just Gaza, but also things like breaking the railroad strike). Do that and not only does the left lose whatever small leverage we have, but it also signals to Biden that yes, go ahead and brutally murder thousands of innocent little kids, the left will eventually fall in line no matter what. This means the next time there’s a genocide (say that Israel decides to completely annex the West Bank and ethnically cleans the Palestinians there) the Democrats will have zero fear of any consequences of being a critical partner to Israel in that genocide.

Thanks for asking by the way! We're always happy to answer good faith questions like this from folks who aren't around here :)