Tumblr: If you refuse to support the person carrying out a genocide of millions of people, "you have an incredible amount of privilege" and actually DON'T care about Palestine. Here's a helpful chart!
trans rights have not been protected under Biden, and have begun to be stripped away without any backlash
didn't codify Roe, now it's dead under him
Ha, Biden loves oil
People still go bankrupt due to medical debt
He's trying to sanction a cure for diabetes because it's more profitable to treat than it is cure.
it got shot down, Biden still owes me over 10,000 dollars
not enough busses, not enough trains.
literally supported segregation
just repeating bullet points with different wording for filler
covid is being swept under the rug as if it no longer exists, and a new bird flu is likely brewing in addition to that due to our fucked up food industry.
cant even legalize weed. Maybe he'll free a couple high profile black people before the election though.
Even if those liberal politicians had the best of intentions, what do they have to say for the fact they have done NOTHING to resist the white ruling class’ SIX DECADE LONG TEMPER TANTRUM over the civil rights act? Hell, Biden did nothing about the oil cartels raising prices together as one likely as protest over a non-republican in office.
Canadian Obama literally ran on ending FPTP, pretended to evaluate the alternatives, then said there was no consensus on which alternative to switch to so why bother.
Changing election systems means power giving up the path by which it got to power. Guess how likely that is.
RCV/instant runoff doesn't actually create opportunities for third parties either. Plenty of places use it and still have duopolies or single party rule. There's also fptp systems that have multiple parties engaged in government.
It's almost like political power doesn't flow from votes.
It's an improvement and I could see some argument for holding your nose and voting for a lib if they were actually gonna do it, but when the candidate doesn't even pretend to support it it's just another reason to oppose them, it's entirely self-defeating.
Infrastructure? we just had another damn fail. Every month are stories of major structural and systemic failures. It's been a joke. Meanwhile is actually doing great works, high speed rail, and modern architectural achievements. We aren't building shit anymore.
Biden's Green Mold Deal isn't even enough to keep up with the damage done by climate enhanced storms. It is 1/10th of a limited period of even begining to address what we need to do.
Loan forgiveness? Oh you mean all the people who you say qualify but when they apply you deny them or say "oh..it's only a small part. We didn't mean everything if you qualify....oh and then you had to have had the money paying on that debt...so if you couldn't pay or if your debt is recent, then welcome to pragmatism honey"
Nearly 100,000 transgender youth live in states that banned access to health care, sports, or school bathrooms in 2023
Oh, you expect Biden to do anything about the red states banning trans existence? Those are STATE ISSUES!
Also, yes, Biden does indeed have the ability to completely bypass Congress on matters of sending colossal amounts of weaponry to states actively wiping out millions of people. That's just how things landed! The system just happens to be this way! Total inability to do good things and not even vague oversight when doing bad things! If you think this is bad, then vote! ...nobody is running against changing those systematic issues except third parties, and the two parties have no reason to change this and many, MANY reasons to keep the current system intact, and we have no real way to exert power over them due to our refusal to even withdraw our votes let alone take major co-ordinated national action, but...
Reminder that Biden has been sending weapon packages to Israel in shipments just under the mandatory congressional review limit, something better known as the crime of structuring for us plebs
When it comes to the "ceasefire", I'm pretty sure this means the Israeli proposal of "Hamas surrenders unconditionally and Israel continues genociding unopposed".
Being able to distinguish between things the Biden admin has paid lip service to and the things the Biden administration has actually meaningfully changed challenge. Level: Easy, Result: Abject Failure
Tumblr is seemingly full of the least materialist-minded liberals you've ever seen. The entire framing of "you have to vote based on what the candidates claim to support" even if they were honest about it, is on its face a shit idea when BOTH CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN PRESIDENT, AND ONE HAS BEEN IN CONGRESS FOR 11,000 YEARS BEFORE THAT
Liberals in general treat politics as prayer and ritual to a pantheon of polytheistic gods. You must perform the Biden voting sacrament or else the nefarious Putin will ruin this year's grape harvest.
Nate Silver is the temple's leading haruspex. When he predicted in 2012 that the volcano god would not erupt based on the entrails of a bird, he was widely applauded for being correct among the townsfolk.
Yea I'm not sure how they haven't figured out that posting these charts or pre written walls of text and having anybody who isn't already blue Maga go "bullshit, bullshit, bullshit" to all their claims about Biden just makes them think the person who posted it is a fucking liar, and they're currently talking about how great Biden is.
Idk I have reservations about this attitude because I have close friends on discord who are definitly not Blue MAGA. They're like, soft baby leftists who think a revolution would be good but are also trans people in red states who are scared as hell of certain things. They seem to genuinely believe that Biden is better on all or most things, pretty much everything except immigration which they will admit he's been worse, and consider voting for him and other Democrats to be a matter of simple self preservation. I try telling them our talking points on here but most of them bounce off. But they are like, sincerly well meaning, not trying to manipulate things. They just want to live lol. I take a more empathetic stance I guess because of my experiences there.
In particular I've found that our points about Roe being lost under Biden and the ratcheting up of anti-trans legislation happening under Biden are total flops with them. Not because they don't care about those things, the second thing is the main reason they're scared, they just absolutely cannot see why we blame him for that. They're caught in certain mindsets and just... cannot seem to break out. Not in the way I've communicated it anyway.
And these are fairly intelligent people as well. One of them is the person I've had the best talks with about her Jewish identity vs Zionism and she is actually like, radically anti-Zionist. But the one thing that she seems stuck on despite her growing radicalization everywhere else.
The other reason I am a bit more empathetic is like,,, basically up until the Gaza genocide started in earnest I was sorta still in their mindset? I wasnt going to vote for Biden only because I don't live in a swing state. Gaza made me reconsider some things, particularly my stance on lesser evil voting.
Biden's policy "wins" always sound like when my boss makes me write performance review bullet points for myself when I haven't finished a damn project all year, so it's a bunch of "spearheaded exploratory efforts to design and implement _______" and "provided technical expertise for [re-]architecture of ______" bullshit that, in the end, amounts to "I tried but you motherfuckers wouldn't let me because you hurled 80% of the team's support tickets my way without even attempting to share those efforts amongst the other devs," except Genocide Joe doesn't even have that excuse.
Burned-out nerd rant
I'm not even joking about the support workload vs. time spent on project work shit. Case in point, I finished modernizing a fairly critical process last August and it still hasn't been promoted to our Prod environment because the primary stakeholder has been "too busy" to sign off on it. The usual turnaround for something like that is like a week or two, tops, and none of the core functionality even changed. It was about 75% throwaway work when they requested it two years ago, and it's probably getting chucked out at the end of next quarter. Love burning 160+ labor hours on cleaning up coworkers' garbage-tier code just to be able to extend a piece of software without breaking a bunch of other shit, all because the middle management fiefdom think that "160 hour estimate" means "it will be done in exactly one month" and don't even question why a "trivial" change has a one-labor-month estimate tacked onto it.
I can't believe that I've lasted as long as I have at this place. Turnover under my previous supervisor was a huge red flag right out of the gate, but at least he has moved over to a different section to go be a disorganized, out-of-touch bougie doofus over there. The damage is already done, though, both in terms of toxic team/org dynamics and my own mental health.
they act like that worthless old fucking pig hasn't been sitting his dying ass in the oval office for the last 4 years and like we don't know that he obviously doesn't give a fuck about any of that besides funding israel
going behind congress, outside the law to give child murderers child murder tools: just normal statescraft, he doesn't want to do it!
having his "keystone" legislation blocked by single members of his party or literally unelected rulebook-scolds: he tried his very best, these are the most important issues to him
Yes I am a single-issue voter. My single issue is that I don’t vote for people who are actively committing a genocide.
These little assholes know they’re not changing anyone’s minds. Deep down they probably want to see Biden lose so they can spend the next four years feeling smug on the internet that themselves, the good upstanding liberals that are, advocated for Biden but those evil horseshoe tankies got Trump elected. The feelings of moral superiority is what they crave, but they also know the left has the morally superior position (and it kills them that we don’t even care about being “morally superior”).
Edit: I want to tell one of these nerds who makes these charts: “Death to America, I love humanity infinitely more than I do this country. So add a few foreign policy issues like “forcing Ukrainians into a meat grinder”. Then weight domestic versus foreign issues in proportion to the population of the US versus RoW, and then see how the points shake out.
My single issue is that I don’t vote for people who are actively committing a genocide.
If I ever have kids, I would so fucking disgusted with myself if they asked me what I was doing during the Palestine Genocide and I said "...I voted for the person carrying out the genocide." I can't even imagine. It's like if you were German and your parent or grandparent did nothing during the Holocaust; you'd be so ashamed to be associated with them.
Oh libs absolutely love it when their party is out of power because then they get to pretend their party would fix all these problems if they just were in power. When they’re actually in power, then they have to make excuses for their impotency and that’s no fun.
usually it's reddit or twitter posts, so I might as well occasionally bring along some moderate-wing fascists from tumblr to round out the only 5-6 platforms on the internet
Trans rights: rights to what? Medical care? Protection from discrimination? Another commenter pointed out the massive surge in anti-trans rhetoric, hate crimes, and hate laws during Biden's regime
Abortion access: Roe v Wade ended during Biden regime, no attempts made to enshrine abortion as law or protect existing abortion providers or act against state level anti-abortion laws
Environmental reform: oil & gas extraction has never been higher than under Biden, and Biden has allowed extraction on an unprecedented amount of previously protected land
Prescription reform: Insulin is price capped for some. People still die from lack of access due to cost
Loan forgiveness: What forgiveness? You'd think if people were getting their loans forgiven the regime would be blasting the airwaves about it to lock in voters that also want to alleviate their debt
Infrastructure funding: Of the billions provided, most has vanished into thin air by way of layers of consultants, corruption, and inability to manufacture anything without ten middlemen skimming. The practical result is that very little has been done, and most of it is toxic car infrastructure
Advocating racial equity: advocating something isn't the same as actually enacting laws to mandate it. Biden also advocates for Bibi to bomb less but keeps giving him more bombs
DEI: this is racial equity again
Vaccines & public health: Biden ended free vaccination programs and told the CDC to stop monitoring COVID, and has had seemingly no interest in taking preemptive action against the developing bird flu crisis
Criminal justice reform: He pardoned the like, 10 people on federal weed charges and rescheduled it down from heroin to meth level
Military support to Israel: this is bad, it's bad he's doing this
Ceasefire: He could compel the ceasefire with one phone call and hasn't done a thing beyond telling Bibi to please try to bomb fewer children, please sir
I find it frustrating how libs seem to think that people won't vote for Biden because they disagree on one simple thing.
People won't vote for Biden because he fails ALL the items on that list, but because Trump is so awful they'd still be willing to vote for Biden, if he didn't commit a genocide.
Its not "well he's one item from perfect" it's "Jesus christ, that is it! If you're doing a genocide then there is no difference at all."
Pisses me off so much how these libs imply that people who are against genocide can't be marginalized. "Your queer, disabled, and marginalized loved ones" give me a fucking break. I AM queer you asshole.
Liberal 'you must vote for 99% hitler or you are transphobic' rhetoric (and I guess Isr*el pride month) is like the 2010s 'I am an attack helicopter that wants to drop bombs on foreign countries and if you oppose you are transphobic' chud joke but unironic.
Fascists will openly embrace being evil, but liberals love to do all sorts of mental gymnastics to tell leftists “nuh-uh, YOU’RE THE REAL PORKY! I’m the only viable protector of the masses!”
Okay so all Biden has to do is stop the Israel support and he's good, right? That's the point they're trying to make? Only one more step? Should be easy for them, then.
"it's not my responsibility to support your pro-genocide candidate just because that's who your political party actively, knowingly chose to offer. sorry about your loyalty-over-principle problems. press 30330 to donate to genocide joe."
Biden supporters holding a gun to the heads of minorities: "Look, I know you don't like Biden, but if you don't vote for him these people are all going to die".
Hey! Asshole! Did you know that the person who isn't the current sitting president of the United States of America is worse that the current sitting president of the United States of America?
Does Biden actually deserve ANY of those check marks? (Aside from the genocide one which should be triple checked
Mother fucker hasn't done a single actual goddamn good thing, he has just claimed he would soon do a good thing and then lo and behold fucking nothing, or even a bad thing instead
Like, isn't the child tax credit thing ALREADY toast!? That was like the one good thing and it was like only a year or two!
Yeah that's real nice peckerwood but I'm not readin' all that. Death to Amerika, death to the DNC, death to Tumblr. Death to anglos too while I'm at it, I don't know anyone with any substantial amount of melanin who isn't a minstrel for said anglos who uses that absolute cracker barrel of a site.
Tbf I am compelled to correct that there is in fact a sizable ML and otherwise left wing contigent on Tumblr and last time I browsed tumblr there was quiet a lot of anti-Biden/Democrat sentiment. But people there tend to just stick to their own corners outside of the occasional clash.
Why can't these people just fuck off. Biden may well win and when he does they'll completely disregard leftist opinions until the next election. Also in which fucking universe is Biden actually doing meaningful work on the list of issues. Pretty much everything has gotten worse under Biden.
The thing which drives me up the wall about FPTP and "lesser evil" moralizing is that, given the FPTP voting system, the onus is on the party to put forward a candidate who can win a majority. Don't blame the voters for the party's failure. The democrats are putting up a shit candidate, so if they lose, it's their fault. Not the people. A real tail-wagging-the-dog situation.
If you believe in democracy, then you must believe that power comes from the people, not that power whips the people into line.
I am not from around here but I have a lot of views in common with y'all but I don't quite get this one. I am also not American for what it's worth.
I get that they're both bad options and not wanting to vote for a guy supporting a genocide, but wouldn't you rather the more left leaning of the two win and go from there? Is there any benefit to voting for a third party that in all likelihood won't get in?
When you stop listening to what democrats say and start looking at what they are actually doing it becomes apparent that the same laws are passing under Biden that were passing under Trump.
There comes a certain point where both parties are so far right that it becomes pointless to distinguish between the two.
At the end of the day the Dems and the GOP are both capitalist bootlickers built on a foundation of racist imperialism and neither of them are going to save us from the problems of the modern day, because they benifit from the systems in place that cause those problems.
Biden isn't to the left of Trump, he's continued all of Trump's policies.
None of Biden, his cabinet, or the Democratic Party leadership care about any of the things on this checklist. The difference is that, in a completely unrelated sphere of media coverage and political pundits, far from the handles of power, there are people who cheer for good causes and the democrats, and there are people who cheer for fascism and the republicans. That can feel like a substantive difference if you get caught up in it, but it pops like a soap bubble if you look at what people passing laws actually do.
Voting third party increases the chances that a third party will be taken seriously enough to get a significant vote next election. It's a shitty consolation prize. We have a shitty system.
Yours and other comments have helped me understand a bit better. It's a shitty situation to be in and I'm glad my country has preferential voting. Hopefully third parties get enough votes to at least get some attention.
I absolutely think that's reason enough, but I also have the luxury of preferential voting so I've never had to consider voting for a 'lesser of two evils' even if the degree is quite small.
I used to really struggle with this one. Becuase in my mind I wasn't endorsing evil by voting lesser evil. I was voting for the difference.
What made me realize and change my mind on the subject was when I realized that for the politican I'm voting for I am NOT endorsing just the things that make them different from the other guy. They actually see it as an endorsement of everything they do. And therefor they see it as a reason to keep doing exactly what they've been doing.
It was me realizing that what I think my vote is for doesn't materially matter.
I know stuff like this sounds obvious, but sometimes hearing it does actually help. It's easy to get caught up in doing the "better" thing than doing what's right.
Trump getting in wouldn't be great, but if he does that's on the democrats.
You seem to be under the impression that most Americans vote matters.
With the Electoral College and how partisan state governments have gerrymandered, I can honestly say my vote, here in Texas, literally makes no difference. Biden has literally zero realistic chance of winning this state, my vote does not make any difference. So why make an empty gesture in support of a war criminal, when I can make an empty gesture by writing in a 3rd party like the PSL?
Biden has blown Trump out of the water in terms of deportations, police funding, war, prosecution of leftist activists thru RICO charges, strike-breaking of major unions (like the biggest strike-breaking since the eighties) and environmental destruction thru expansion of the US oil industry
To say nothing of the fact Biden allowed the covid social welfare benefits from the Trump era to expire which along with inflation drove tens of millions straight back into poverty, after many of them temporarily escaped it during the lockdown era
And of course the most important part: HE'S COMMITTED GENOCIDE AND TRUMP HASN'T, sorry but a real genocider is worse than a hypothetical one
This kind of presumes the policy difference here is between, say, the Nazis and the SPD (who btw were shooting communists dead in the street as late as 1930) and not, say, the Nazis and the DNVP. There are purity tests, and genocide is a pretty fair one.
Ultimately though if you're for "harm reduction", only foreign policy matters by an order of magnitude, and you should vote for whoever will fuck up US hegemony the most.
Ever hear that liberalism is the moderate wing of facism? Today's Democrat Party is now the party of and Cheney. Look up ratchet effect. Every election it just gets more right wing. Mostly because the Democrats have the same bribers as Republicans and the Democrats have no actual left to compete with to balance that pull to the right from Republicans.
The benifet is tearing down the facade that we have a democracy and forcing the establishment to acknowledge 3rd parties (including in debates by default, matching public funds, news articles showing the significance) , as well as popularizing 3rd parties and getting 3rd parties elected in local representation.
Remember how big a deal those "non committed" votes were in the Primary? How much they made a stink of Jill Stein's votes in 2016? That's what hurts the empire. Because it is run on "consent", enough votes not consenting to the system to the point they can't ignore / fudge with is extremely significant.
The Democrats are a ratchet for the political spectrum in the US
Biden isn't a leftist but he's as left as the Democrats will get going forward. Like a ratchet, the Overton window slides right and then stops leftward at whatever the current Democratic president is, in this case Biden
The next one won't be Sanders, won't be AOC, won't be some surprise other SocDem candidate. The next one will be either Biden 2.0 or further right, and on and on
At best, Democrats are absolutely toothless. Plenty of red states are passing abortion outlawing and anti-queer laws, and the Democrats haven't done shit. "Oh but the President is limited in what he can do" "oh but the senate, the Democrats will be filibustered" who gives a fuck. They haven't even raised their heads from their desks, let alone done any attempt to fight for these rights. All they're doing is preventing the laws from getting worse at a federal level, if that, and that'll change immediately on the next election regardless of who wins
There is no "going from there". Voting for a candidate is inplicit support of everything the candidate does. You cannot vote for a candidate and then pick and choose your support, they don't give a fuck, all they care about is that they won on their platform. Biden will not move any left from his position, Democrats literally never have been pushed left. Any time there's left pressure, they call it loony leftist behaviour and go run to the Republicans for some bipartisan crackdowns
A lesser evil is still an evil, especially when the lesser evil really isn't that much lesser
wouldn't you rather the more left leaning of the two win and go from there
lmao
Joe Biden initially was a Republican when he got his start, but he switched to the Democratic party early on because Watergate made Nixon too unappetizing. I feel like it's a good summation of who he is.
I get that they're both bad options and not wanting to vote for a guy supporting a genocide, but
No. Just don't. You do not have to do the actual bit here. Joe Biden is damn near as bad as Trump on literally everything. You do not have to defend him because he is marginally less awful on a handful of items, when one of the things he is as bad (or worse on) is 'committing genocide'.
I can acknowledge there is a marginal difference between Biden and Trump. However, by accepting whatever infinitesimally small difference there is and voting for Biden, that is effectively an endorsement of everything Biden has done over the last four years (not just Gaza, but also things like breaking the railroad strike). Do that and not only does the left lose whatever small leverage we have, but it also signals to Biden that yes, go ahead and brutally murder thousands of innocent little kids, the left will eventually fall in line no matter what. This means the next time there’s a genocide (say that Israel decides to completely annex the West Bank and ethnically cleans the Palestinians there) the Democrats will have zero fear of any consequences of being a critical partner to Israel in that genocide.
Every single check they gave to Biden is a lie except for the doing genocide one, it's all bullshit lies, biden claimed that he would do something about some of these and then just didn't, none of this happened and if it did for some localities, it's because of local pressure or politics not Biden