Citations Needed makes its first appearance on the prestigious Media Bias Chart® (Podcast Edition)

Rev Left Radio being called "Misleading" is so fucking bonkers to me.

Breht is such a thoughtful and genuine guy. And the show has so many guests on with differing perspectives. Like, yeah ok, some of those guests might say things one disagrees with, are debated within a given field, or are otherwise occasionally incorrect. But the ethos of that show is about getting the listener to know how to think, and thoughtfully approach things, from a broad left perspective. It's not just feeding you normative claims and calling it a day.

Anyway, go listen to RevLeft, Breht is such a gift

This is just a "supports author's worldview" chart. Peak liberal "reputable sources" ideology
Ad Fontes never analyzed or listened to the show. They noticed that it was "far-left" (it's in the name!). And far-left = biased = misleading/unfactual, by definition. It's that simple.
- What is Ad Fontes and how did they even know about RevLeft? I feel like RevLeft is pretty off the radar.
- Yep, hence the /\ shape of the graph
Rev Left: "Marx said this: [Reads accurate quote.]"

Ad Fontes: "No he didn't"
Breht is fine, thoughtful, ok, but he comes across as condescending 80% of the time, and I find that really off putting.

Hexbear news thread too far up and left to be on the chart

Hexbear News is the most trusted name in shitposting.
If you zoom in reaaaaally close and enhance you can just barely make out the bottom corner of 72T's avatar

Lmao at Bill Maher being remotely left. This chart is so lib it might as well be a Harry Potter reference

It treats fucking NPR as definitionally trustworthy and unbiased
- When you're a lib, NPR seems like the gospel truth and you feel very smug about listening to it. Before I had fully understood and rejected liberalism (voted for Stein in 2012 out of disgust with Obama, but still had a ways to go), I spent a good few years listening to Morning Edition, All Things Considered, and Wait! Wait! Don't Tell Me (their weekly news quiz) religiously. The concept of a news quiz is incredibly enticing to libs--my lib mom loves doing the NYT news quiz every week to test "how much she knows" (i.e. how much propaganda + useless trivia she's been fed), and I felt the same way about being able to answer questions in WWDTM. And as for the morning and afternoon news programs, they cover a wide variety of (uncontroversial) topics and are Fair and Balanced™ (i.e. they have center-right and far-right guests) which makes you feel worldly and broad-minded.
  
  But as the 2016 presidential campaign dragged on I started to see just how ridiculous their coverage of Bernie was--outright mocking him and his supporters, pretty much, which seemed at odds with their supposedly neutral editorial position. I think the final straw for me was in the early days of the Trump Administration, when they brought on a cavalcade of cartoonishly evil goons from the Trump Administration to lie through their teeth, which the reporters would barely push back on (because that would be partisan!); I remember their "interview" (more of a press release) of Sebastian Gorka right after the Muslim travel ban being particularly shameful. But again, I was already on the path to the left. If you're a comfortable lib, the actual policies don't matter--the calm, authoritative voices of the NPR hosts and their unwavering civility in the face of pure evil soothes your mind, and instead of worrying your head about "issues" you just collect "facts" about the events of the week so you can stay "informed", although since you have no actual political goals there is seemingly no purpose to this other than appearing smart to other libs when you go to brunch.
- All Things Considered*
  
  *not all things actually considered
- Getting your news from NPR is like getting your news from those soothing YouTube videos of rainfall and white noise

Citations needed is where NPR News hour sits. It's centrist, even totally apolitical (just balls and strikes), and extremely fact based and unbiased. If you think it's left wing it's because you're a nazi shit head liar like everyone else in this fucked wasteland we call society and that's just an unbiased fact.

Citations Needed is left-wing because they're correct and being correct is left-wing.
Literally in their latest episode they just dropped the phrase "our listeners are not Maoists who believe the American state should be destroyed" and I was like . They're angry, righteous nebulous leftists, which is fine given what they do.

The lie they're trying to tell doesn't even require it to be boomerang shaped, they could fill in the bottom center with trashy tabloid stuff and make it more believable, while still appealing to their audience's biases.

But they're so high on their own supply that they can't take that easy win, so they ranked Joe Rogan as less misleading than revleft.

so they ranked Joe Rogan as less misleading than revleft.

Truly wild.

Rev Left: "This week we have an author talking about their book"

Rogan: "Jamie, pull up that video of those two aliens fucking"
- Well, since this is just a preference chart compiled by the author, it makes it pretty clear what their politics are.
- I mean I know which will be more entertaining
They obviously came up with the boomerang shape before they started gathering a list of podcasts. They wouldn’t dare critique any establishment-affirming media no matter how trashy lest it taint the holy aura of the righteous center.

Damn did they leave trueanon out this time?

Snub Brace Belden at your own risk, The Media Bias Chart brace-cowboy

it's too high up and far left to fit in the chart
- I giggled modestly to myself out loud
They seem to change it up year by year. Trueanon being to the right of CNN, Anderson Cooper, and MSNBC was though

Imagine thinking Joe Rogan has more media value than Rev Left holy moly

Data must be molded to preserve horseshoe theory.
Lol Revleft often has on professors from accredited universities as guests. Rogan has on former WWE wrestlers and comedians.
- Lol Revleft often has on professors from accredited universities as guests. Rogan has on former WWE wrestlers and comedians.
  
  Am I not a professor, you woke moralist?!?!?!

The hyperpartisan left is when you apply critical analysis to media and back it up with extensive citations.

No, they don't cite things. They need citations. It's right there in the name

I'm a surprised that Virgil is still in the Bad Faith logo. I had to look it up and he's still in the logo on the official site as well. The last episode that Virgil was on was Episode 78 in June 2021. Brie just released episode 375 this week and Virgil is still in the cover. Why is she holding on to this?

He's running.
he's fired
At this point I just assume it's a running gag, because people have to have asked her about it
The ChapoTrapHouse podcast description on Apple Podcasts still lists him.
Either he's getting residuals and there's a contract that's ambiguous about the branding in the case of his disappearing from public life, or she just can't be assed to change it.
- Brie: "hey Virgil why do you have a clause about getting residuals even in the case of... 'doing a Polanski'? What does that even mean?"
  
  Virgil: [disappears in a cloud of vape smoke]
- It helps her if anything. With the dudebro leftists with unchallenged misogynistic views who wouldn't listen to a podcast with just a woman in it, but who would be drawn by Virgil showing up in the thumbnail.

Never trust anyone who makes graphs. Anyone who has made a graph outside of work or school is a counter revolutionary

Graphs are primarily for meme purposes now
- Another apologist for Big Graph. Suckered in by all thse flashy graph advertisements on TV
How much of a lib you are 📈📈📈

My patience for people who are not Data Driven 📉📉📉
- Real photo of a person who is Data Driven
What if I made graphs to figure out the odds of an opposed roll in an RPG, but I did it during work hours?

EDIT: Wait graph is probably a strong word, it was just an Excel tab, didn't even use pivot tables.
- Tables are fine. It's when bars and lines start coming into play we've got problems.

Bad faith is covered up to ONLY virgil is visible he-laughed

Really fuckin hilarious that four years on she still hasn't removed him from the banner

bill maher going under "skews left" is wild

on what exactly??? is his chair not aligned properly??

The unbiased, most factual podcast is US state-sponsored media. Seems legit.

Their government handlers feed them all the best facts :)

ah yes, citations needed, the "hyper partisan" podcast that spends all of its run time telling you exactly how every awful policy in this country is bipartisan and democrats are bloodthirsty capitalist racist imperialist colonialist ghouls who you should under no circumstances pledge your fealty to.

bowtie dipshit bell curve fetishizing media pathologically incapable of decoupling partisanship from politics and imagining a world outside their narrow overton window despite it being literally 110% of what Citations Needed talks about during any given episode, which surely they listened to at least a few before plotting them on this graph, right???? peppino-angry

How is one of the pod Johns more left than citations-needed

Lovett or Leave It is also straight up a comedy news podcast like Wait Wait Don't Tell Me, they're not trying to be factual
- I don’t think they listened to a single minute of any of the podcasts other than NPR, they just compiled a list of “radical left”, “center”, and “radical right” podcasts and arranged the “data” to fit the preconceived model, with the “extreme” podcasts being randomly assigned a pecking order on the Pinocchio chart descending down from the holy unquestionable Gospel of NPR

Rev Left being on the same level as Timcast is farcical. What on earth in the methodology for this?

The methodology is that the left must be as bad as the right, so put media things on here until it forms a horseshoe.
It's simple, start with the conclusion that the center (99% Hitler) is objectively correct and that "reliability" decreases as you move towards the evil 1984 totalitarian extremes and work backwards to shoehorn the data into your prebuilt model.

I gave Dumb Gay Podcast a listen. They blamed Iran for people not voting Biden and enthusiastically cheered on the US taking Taiwan. I think the person making this graph just looked at the title and assumed it was radical left.

They just thought it was another Nick Mullen podcast which would obviously make it center-left

VIRGIL

She hasn't changed the picture after like four years
From the hit series Devil May Cry

Accuracy in media, in theory: "Both the extreme left and extreme right represent equal and oppositely biased perspective on the same facts, so they will naturally cancel out if you stay between them."

That theory, applied: "We must abolish the class system in order to prevent the frogs from turning gay."

three radical centrists arguing:

"We must uphold the class system in order to turn the frogs gay"

"no, we must abolish the class system in order to prevent the frogs from turning gay"

"compromise? we must abolish only half the classes, and turn half the frogs gay."

congress:

lmaoooo less reliable than Bad Faith?

Can't believe they didn't rate Bad Faith lower for the blatant misinformation in their thumbnail (Virgil Texas does not exist).

Its a horseshoe 🐴👞

Rev left is genuinely good and informative along with Red Meance and Guerilla History. "Misleading" lmao

Translation: "doesn't uncritically accept liberal political orthodoxy"

Lol at the bad faith card being partially covered so ONLY Virgil (hes fired) is visible

LOL Pod Save The World is just as factual as Briahna Joy Gray's podcast

Lmao TYT isn't even ranked on this anymore

Edit: nvm this one's podcast specific

claiming that bad faith is more reliable than citations needed is basically the terriology of making dumbass politics graphs

If you think politics is just entertainment, as liberals do, you'll think bad faith is facts and citations needed is propaganda.

Wait, Stephen A Smith is on the chart? blocky-wat

I've never heard of him before.
- As bbnh69420 said, he's mainly about basketball and sports in general. Whatever politics I've heard from him over the years runs closer to mainstream Dem. How they think he's anywhere close to being as leftist as Citations Needed is perplexing. Says a lot about whoever made this chart lol.
- His primary realm is basketball
He shit on Biden this year, so that's probably why (he's a lib though)
- Ok, makes sense. At least I can see how that'd make sense to whoever made this lol.